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Ancestral Republican
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Junior Chimp
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« on: May 06, 2024, 02:40:50 PM »

I've been saying all along Bibi would never accept anything like this.

End of violence = end of his power
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Ancestral Republican
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,984
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2024, 03:20:46 PM »

You can’t negotiate with Hamas in good faith and it’s insane to think otherwise. The only thing that can be done is to destroy them

That doesn't mean that everybody should turn a blind eye to Israel's war crimes.
Not everybody has lost his ability to be appalled like you obviously have.




You think the United States committed genocide in World War 2?

And what are the sources on these numbers? I'm not convinced this "formula" is valid to begin with, but he doesn't even show his work...

No but the point is that the relative civilian casualties in this war are comparable to the first ballot of Fallujah which shows how absurd it is to call what’s being done a war crime let alone a genocide

I'm genuinely confused whether you are capable of making a single argument that doesn't consist of "what about this other thing, therefore..."

This is not an intellectually strong or winning argument.
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Ancestral Republican
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,984
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2024, 03:35:12 PM »

I'm genuinely confused whether you are capable of making a single argument that doesn't consist of "what about this other thing, therefore..."

This is not an intellectually strong or winning argument.

It is not whataboutism, it is comparing two similar cases.

Making numerical/mathematical comparisons between similar events is a fundamental aspect of human reasoning.

If you simply close your eyes and ignore analyses of civilian casualties in other wars in order to get some sense of what can be realistically achievable, then all you are accomplishing is blinding yourself and reveling in ignorance rather than seeking truth from facts.

It's completely whataboutism lol. It ignores the definition of the term and facts behind it for an incredibly simplistic "gotcha" statement.
No different than when Computer89 pulls the "how could ____ be racist when Trump said the same thing?" card.

And, respectfully, if you're saying no war crimes happened because this is similar to how America conducted its war in Iraq/Afghanistan, then, buddy.... it's not gonna work out for you.
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