Stop pretending you care.

[MK]

Can at least one half of America stop pretending it cares?

If your response to each and every tragedy like this is nothing, which it is, why even bother to report these shootings? Why not leave them for the ‘and finally’ columns in newspapers? If Sandy Hook didn’t change anything, then I doubt the deaths of a bunch of Hispanic gays is going to change anything.

After Sandy Hook, a background check bill was filibustered in the Senate. An attempt to renew the federal assault weapons ban failed. A bill to allow the CDC to study the cause of and solutions to gun violence went nowhere. After Charleston, a bill to reform background checks went nowhere. After Roseburg and the President’s plea, no response was taken. After San Bernardino bills went nowhere. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing.

Stop pretending you care. Care is not thought, not consolation but action.

Your prayers are pointless. I will be a sh**tty atheist on this one; prayer absolves you actually doing anything while still making you feel good. If it's all politicians have got then they have absolutely nothing to give. It’s especially insensitive given that many of the victims will have already had ‘prayer’ thrown at them in their name for very different reasons. It didn’t work then and it won’t work now.

‘Oh but wait, but this was Islamic terror.’

No. This wasn’t the Bataclan. This wasn’t a mass planned, defying the odds series of co-ordinated attacks. It was an act of domestic terror. It does not matter what ideology someone taps into, or tries to self-justify.

I’m going to repeat this; IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT IDEOLOGY SOMEONE TAPS INTO.

It doesn’t matter whether it was Islamist, or white-supremacist, or dominionist. The shooter was not a foreigner, he wasn’t a weird basement dwelling kid. He was 29. He was middle class, married. He was a security guard and he was able, last week to buy weapons and walk out the f-cking store with them.

And he bought an AR-15. The weapon of choice for mass shooters. They should put it on the box. They should advertise it; why buy anything else? Why else would you need an AR-15? Is it a choice weapon for farmers, for hunters? Is it the number one weapon for law enforcement? Is there an Olympic shooting event that requires expert training with an AR-15?

And like every other issue that directly affects LGBT Americans, this whole event get's turned around by right wing reactionaries to make it about them and their rights and their guns and their freedoms. The right of gays to marry became more about their right to not marry them, the right of gays to not be discriminated against became about their right to religious freedom or what ever cognitive bullsh**t they washed in public, the rights of trans people to use a bathroom becomes about 'rapists and mothers and daughters' and every mans stupid scatological fetish.

So don't pretend you care about them for who they are and who they love and why they were there together in a 'safe space' an actual safe space to celebrate who they are and for their friends to celebrate with them. Don't offer hollow solidarity if you've never once showed it for a single LGBT person. You don't get to claim them now if you never claimed them before.

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Give me a break.   People like you and the left made it about "guns" . The issue is radical muslim terrorist.   Did you not wacth your President yesterday?

[MK]

AR-15s are pretty awesome guns.

Well someone is definitely not pretending he cares.  Kind of refreshing in a sick sort of way.

No f-cks have been given.

Its fun to shoot at the range but can be expensive.  Actually thought about selling and getting a SkS and putting some $$ into it.   With the loony left and Hillary possibly trying to ban these I figured I'd hold on to it and watch the value go up due to it being a pre-ban AR (if that were to happen).  FYI.. if a ban takes place guns like mine would be most likely grandfathered in.

[MK]

...if the government really did want to f**k you over and f**k you over good, armed citizens are no match against trained soldiers and their armaments and vehicles.

But you're not understanding the nature of such a battle - it would not be a conflict on a open plain, rather it would be slow grind urban warfare involving the sniping of any occupying force.  In such a scenario, there are enough guns among the US populous to make occupation untenable.

Sounds like you've read Unintended Consequences.

Its more complex then that.  You have local police that also are citizens not to mention some soldiers would defend their families rather than some tyrannical government politician.  We most likely would be dealing with blackwater types and radical hard left anarchist.

Yes, they have fully auto weapons, but so do most local police. We would also take arms from the ones we kill in the process.  Capture their drones and reprogram them to work for us.   Its not as simple as you make it out to be. Urban warfare wont be easy.

[MK]

The right to bear arms is protected by the 2nd amendment.

Stunning insight.

The eventual goal should be to repeal the 2nd, just as the 21st repealed the 18th, and join the rest of the civilized world.  But baby steps, obviously.

And lets get rid of the 1st too.   I don't understand the left and their never ending quest to make America like the rest of Europe.  Go join those"civilzed" nations and their utopia free from guns.

[MK]

The right to bear arms is protected by the 2nd amendment.

Stunning insight.

The eventual goal should be to repeal the 2nd, just as the 21st repealed the 18th, and join the rest of the civilized world.  But baby steps, obviously.

And lets get rid of the 1st too.

Um, no?  But nice non sequitur.

I don't understand the left and their never ending quest to make America like the rest of Europe.

(psst, America isn't in Europe.)

I said "the rest of the civilized world", which includes far more than just Europe.  But in any case, it shouldn't be so difficult to understand; universal healthcare, no capital punishment, mass public transit, paid vacation time, paid maternity leave, lower incarceration levels, higher average life expectancy, sane attitudes toward climate change, the metric system, and even their f[Inks]ing cheese! 

Go join those"civilzed" nations and their utopia free from guns.

I'd rather stay and help improve the country I grew up in, thanks.  And you're quite correct on one point; not being home to some kind of shooting literally every day does make any given place a utopia, compared to what we're living in.

(And psst, if you're going to put a word in quotes, thus drawing attention to it, try to spell it correctly.)

The day that your desired appeal happens will also be the day I die behind a wood pile with a stack of empty magazines and smoking brass with my body riddled with bullet holes. 

The irony in your efforts will be another civil war that will make the 1st one seem like a mock drill. But its easy for people like you to hide behind a keyboard and propagate this un-american trash because you wouldn't be the one coming to take anything.