WinDis Polls - 1: Abortion

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Pro-life and always will be.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

I am pro-choice and support restoring the 28 week limit.

That's pretty disgusting. The limit is already 24 weeks too high.

How is it disgusting? Forcing women to have backstreet abortions and possibly die in the process - THAT is disgusting.

Committing murder is not excused just because it occurs in a backstreet alleyway and the attempted murderer happens to be risking her own life.

Amen.

And it's not like a clinic abortion can't kill the woman.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Oh, and on a side note, no one is "forced" to have a backstreet abortion.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Oh, and on a side note, no one is "forced" to have a backstreet abortion.

Making something abortion illegal is coercion, so yes they are.

Um, this is not Nazi Germany or Red China. Nobody is forced to have an abortion.

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And Winston, I'm not in favor of forced abortions, I'm in favor of no abortions at all, regardless of where they take place.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Oh, and on a side note, no one is "forced" to have a backstreet abortion.

Making something abortion illegal is coercion, so yes they are.

Um, this is not Nazi Germany or Red China. Nobody is forced to have an abortion.

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And Winston, I'm not in favor of forced abortions, I'm in favor of no abortions at all, regardless of where they take place.

I know. And I'm pointing out the weaknesses in your position. If people have backstreet abortions, they not only risk their own life, they risk their babies life too. Therefore, you've actually indirectly led to deaths of fetuses anyway.

So? Clinical abortions have resulted in maternal deaths too. They risk their own life regardless of where the abortion takes place.

Oh, and what Libertas said.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

What a ridiculous poll.  This is far from a black-and-white issue.

Not really. You either support abortion on request or you don't.

The current UK laws don't support abortion on request, as far as I know. A woman can only get an abortion if the baby will seriously affect the life of the mother or the child itself will be born disable or if birthing the child will kill the mother or in cases of rape/incest. Also, 2 doctors need to agree that the abortion is justified. Our laws are noticabley more conservative compared to the US, Canada and other EU countries which have on demand laws.

Our laws are trying to run the middle ground I guess.

Really? I thought they legalized abortion on demand in 1968.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Pro-choice.

Wow.
You are one of the last people who I would expect to be pro-choice.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Pro-life is still pro-choice. Creating a child is a choice in all non-rape instances so you can make that choice beforehand.

     In other words our euphemisms for policy positions are imperfect.

I don't consider pro-abortionists anything more than anti-life, really. Pro-choice is a euphemism but pro-life is a more proper term for what we do consider pro-life.

     Good for you. Just don't expect to convince anyone of the correctness of your position by telling them that the alternative is "anti-life" & that your position is really "pro-choice" as well.

But segwaystyle is 100% correct. The pro-life position is also the 'pro-choice' position.

Support for abortion-on-demand is pro-death and anti-life.

     In your final vocabulary, not mine. Quit pretending that your views can be generalized to other people, please.

This is universal truth, not just 'my' views.

     Universal truth is a theistic notion. I have no interest in such wares.

That's fine, as long as your views don't result in harm to others, as is the case, for example, with abortion.

     Because everyone should be restricted from what they view as a harmless activity because some subset of the population thinks that it's horrible, eh?

A murderer may view his action as harmless, but that is not relevant to the morality and acceptability of the action.

Following your logic, all crimes should be legalized, since there will always be two competing subsets of the population, the criminals and the just.

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