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Purple State
Junior Chimp
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« on: May 11, 2009, 07:59:12 PM »

I don't plan on supporting this bill.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2009, 02:21:03 PM »

     So what would people being willing to legalize, anyway?

If heroin were legalised, we would have to provide a whole host of measures to 'support it' including extended needle exchange, help for children whose parents take it, children born technically addicted, mental health care etc. A huge extension of the state just to allow people to get smacked out their heads legally.

     That doesn't answer my question, but okay.

What more do you want? You already have marijuana.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2009, 02:43:37 PM »

     So what would people being willing to legalize, anyway?

If heroin were legalised, we would have to provide a whole host of measures to 'support it' including extended needle exchange, help for children whose parents take it, children born technically addicted, mental health care etc. A huge extension of the state just to allow people to get smacked out their heads legally.

     That doesn't answer my question, but okay.

What more do you want? You already have marijuana.

Huh?

Sounded like PiT meant what other drugs would we be willing to legalize. So I said marijuana has already be legalized by the Senate.

Or did he mean what aspects of heroine would we be willing to compromise on?
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2009, 06:58:15 PM »

I assume PiT did ask for what drugs we'd all be willing to legalize. Your response made it sound like you were alleging he wanted them legalized for his personal use or something. I was a bit confused, is all.

BTW, note that LSD is also decriminalized. Something else might be too but I don't remember.

When I said "you" I meant the pro-decriminalization groups. Was a broad reference.

I would support the legalization and taxation of other nondangerous drugs, but I don't know of many besides marijuana. Granted, I am not much of a drug expert. Tongue
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2009, 08:27:22 PM »

I assume PiT did ask for what drugs we'd all be willing to legalize. Your response made it sound like you were alleging he wanted them legalized for his personal use or something. I was a bit confused, is all.

BTW, note that LSD is also decriminalized. Something else might be too but I don't remember.

When I said "you" I meant the pro-decriminalization groups. Was a broad reference.

I would support the legalization and taxation of other nondangerous drugs, but I don't know of many besides marijuana. Granted, I am not much of a drug expert. Tongue

     Hallucinogens tend to be pretty harmless (except for PCP). Maybe we should try to legalize mescaline.

Is the black market and resulting danger to society that high for mescaline? Would taxing mescaline bring in that much revenue?
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2009, 08:46:00 PM »

Does it deserve to be illegal and have its users stigmatized by the government and society?

You are asking the wrong questions, PS.

I guess I would be more supportive if we did them all at the same time. Incrementalism would be far too laborious. Get a list of all the drugs that you feel are safe and non-addictive which you believe should be legalized and propose a bill for their legalization and taxation. I would be happy to vote for something like that.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2009, 09:28:50 PM »

On first glance I would only have a problem with ecstasy, but I would have to look into the rest once you introduced a bill.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2009, 02:58:33 PM »

I have to object to the inclusion of opium in BK's list.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2009, 03:26:57 PM »

Those who helped craft this bill were very open to input and my concerns. I view this as an acceptable compromise and vote

Aye
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2009, 12:31:02 PM »

After some reflection, I will change my vote to Abstain. I feel as though I have not done the adequate research to allow for such a wide scale of drugs to enter Atlasia. While there are a good number of drugs on that list I would consider as "safe," I do not wish to make a judgment on this extended list, only to find that our action has harmed unknowing citizens.
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