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Junior Chimp
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« on: November 05, 2009, 03:30:40 AM »

The fact of the matter is that the majority shouldn't be permitted to decide the rights of the individual at any rate. We are not a democracy; we are a republic, and republicanism (not Republicanism) means that such matters shouldn't be put to a vote.
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2009, 06:58:45 AM »

Bottom line, how do people vote against human rights? It's just incomprehensible to me.

Because they do not see it as a right.

Getting allowed to marry the one you love isn't a right? Of course the real answer is that those people feel homosexuals made a "choice" and shouldn't be allowed to dirty the "institution of marriage" on their whims and fancies. 

I think it's quite obvious that the people who vote against it don't think it to be a right, yes. That's not my personal opinion - certainly next-of-kin status is a right - but a recognition of reality. You can't win these people over, or at least win them over into not caring, by using the language of rights. Which is a bit of a problem in a country where political discourse is so utterly dominated by liberalism as the U.S - because it means that the language of rights is practically the language of politics.

You know, as much as I loathe you, you've actually hit on a point I've been trying to make here. Few people today are much impressed by cries of "my rights", no matter how impassioned they may be; however, cries of "my freedom" will always be en vogue over here.
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