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pbrower2a
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« on: February 05, 2012, 12:00:36 PM »

Teaching both is ok, gives the students a chance to make up their minds or draw their own conclusions. 

If the promoters of astrology had their way, then maybe they could get a state to introduce the idea that astrology has predictive power in the lives of people and in the course of national history. If racists got their way then maybe they could introduce the idea that slave owners were -- contrary to 'liberal myth' -- benefactors to 'their people'. Maybe neo-Nazis could push Jew-hating sentiments as 'racial' reality. I think that you know where that goes.

Creationism is pseudoscience on the same level as divination, Afrocentrism, deconstructionism, and Holocaust denial.  Junk learning does not belong in a classroom.   

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Spare me that argument. Unions exist to give working people a means of standing up to corporate bosses and tycoons who care only for themselves, their families, and their cronies -- people who see working people as nothing more than machines of meat.  Unions cannot enforce above-market wages; businesses can enforce sub-market, exploitative wages if the political system works for them. "Right-to-work (for much less)" means more profits so that elites can hire more domestic servants. Those are the only jobs that "Right-to-Work" laws reliably create.

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The 900 paid 1/3 less will have far less to spend on consumer goods that drive the economy. Profits for the elite do not trickle down; they stay where they go. "Right-to-Work" is the friend of the sweat shop that people might work for a short time in desperation before going elsewhere. It is the consumer economy that drives capitalism; if you don't believe that, then look at the lucrative and cruel economic order of the old South as an example.

I am glad that I have no children to suffer for the sadistic, rapacious, powerful ruling elite of America.
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2012, 12:16:40 PM »

Another state ruined restored to free market principals by Republicans.

As a firm believer in competition of idealologies in the educational field, this is a good idea.


Would you like competition from Marxism-Leninism? Or the official ideologies of Saudi Arabia or Iran? Maybe we could publish millions of the Green Book of the late Muammar Qaddafi as an alternative to what we now have.  I'm sure that the Klan and neo-Nazis could come up with something. While you are at it, consider the merits of faith-healing or homeopathy as a substitute for medicine.


Junk learning does not belong in school; it only discredits those who do the teaching or those who set the policies. Teachers can teach well only if they can create and maintain a climate of trust. Face it -- there is no moral lesson to be had in creationism. It is nothing more than a power play by the Hard Right to push superstition.

Oh, by the way -- when you see a squiggly-red object under a word, then you have either a foreign word or a neologism (possibly legitimate) or a misspelling (not so legitimate).  


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It also makes it far easier for employers to impose sub-market wages upon working people and have more despotism in management. Nobody can effectively negotiate pay against a bureaucratic elite that exists largely to depress wages by finding out a worker's vulnerability. In the absence of a union that is exactly what one faces. Our economic elites have no morals other than raw self interest.

Working people need unions to deal with such management.

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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2012, 06:46:12 AM »

I have no problem with teaching creationism in a religious class. However, courts have ruled that, as it is not a scientific theory, it is not to be taught in science class. And if creationism is taught as science in public schools, which creation story do we go with?

Or, for that matter, as literature. But there is the Epic of Gilgamesh from which the Biblical account is a  heavy redaction, and there is an accessible and better version -- at least as literature -- in the Metamorphoses of Ovid.

Ovid was not a closet Christian.
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