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pbrower2a
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« on: December 14, 2012, 12:28:27 PM »

well I'm worried that white liberals are in the process of being extinct and that the foaming at the mouth types will soon outnumber them greater than 2:1.

That's why the government needs to stop paying conservatives to have kids.

Those subsidies are available to liberals too. The lack of liberal babies goes much deeper than tax breaks. It has much more to do with the fact that most white liberals value lattes and the theatre more than babies. Until that changes, changes to the tax code won`t do much to level the playing field.

'Conservative' preferences in entertainment and culture are clearly different from those of liberals. I suspect that conservative tastes are now more monolithic. Country music, NASCAR racing. "Action" movies. Just visit a local Wal*Mart to see what fits conservative tastes in music, sports, and cinema.

I'm not going to speak for any but white liberals, but it is more costly to raise a child if one is a liberal because liberals are more likely to see ballet lessons, music lessons, excursions to art galleries, and Scouting activities as a part of a 'good' childhood -- and those are expensive and time-consuming. As for theater or music concerts -- add a baby sitter for a child too young to attend the performance. But eventually the child will go to the concert, the ballet, and the theater.

Because of cheap music CDs and movie discs, conservatives can imprint their easily-adopted culture upon kids who know nothing else. Their kids of course do worse in school, so they get stuck in cr@ppy jobs. 
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pbrower2a
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2012, 04:54:06 PM »

Seeing the most dogmatic, irritating and single minded liberals usual have grown up in conservative areas and often with conservative parents, I really doubt that you could genetic engineer people for ideology.

It could be a reaction to a feeling that one missed something by being raised by conservatives in a mindless, joyless environment.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2012, 11:23:55 PM »

Seeing the most dogmatic, irritating and single minded liberals usual have grown up in conservative areas and often with conservative parents, I really doubt that you could genetic engineer people for ideology.

It could be a reaction to a feeling that one missed something by being raised by conservatives in a mindless, joyless environment.

It's remarkable how intolerant of other cultures you are.

Neither mindlessness not joylessness counts as 'culture'.
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2012, 02:14:10 PM »

Seeing the most dogmatic, irritating and single minded liberals usual have grown up in conservative areas and often with conservative parents, I really doubt that you could genetic engineer people for ideology.

It could be a reaction to a feeling that one missed something by being raised by conservatives in a mindless, joyless environment.

It's remarkable how intolerant of other cultures you are.

Neither mindlessness not joylessness counts as 'culture'.

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Civilization is advancing, eh?

Also, speaking from my own experiences with uber-religious people (Orthodox Jews, in my case), while I certainly wouldn't want such a lifestyle for myself, it is neither mindless nor is it joyless. But the interesting coincidence is that they consider modern secular culture to be both mindless and joyless. And significant proportions of them come from secular backgrounds, which, using your logic:

It could be a reaction to a feeling that one missed something by being raised in a mindless, joyless environment.

Means that modern, secular America is a mindless, joyless environment. (And I can safely say we both agree that is not the case.)

The reference is to specific families, and not to religion. People could be very happy in a religion that mandates rejection of much that is mainstream, the Old Order Amish as a prime example. No pork or shellfish (Orthodox Jewish) or no alcohol (Mormonism) isn't quite as restrictive as the rejection of automobiles, telephones, or electronic entertainments. A child brought up as a Mormon or an orthodox Jew can easily listen to Mozart; an Old Order Amish child almost certainly can't.

Alcoholism or drug abuse by parents could create a mindless, joyless environment for children.
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