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« Reply #150 on: August 20, 2015, 09:02:13 AM »

Miliband was/is firmly centre-left on the spectrum of British politics.
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« Reply #151 on: August 20, 2015, 01:02:08 PM »

What percentage of the eventual total vote will have already been cast? Most postal votes in general elections apparently get sent back within a couple of days.
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« Reply #152 on: August 20, 2015, 03:54:15 PM »

Watson makes his views clear.
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« Reply #153 on: August 20, 2015, 04:06:10 PM »

Wheee!

https://archive.is/QQl5m

'Labour supporters have expressed their anger at being barred from the leadership vote, as the party steps up efforts to weed out those suspected of not being genuine supporters.
It is understood that Labour sent out a fresh batch of emails to supporters this morning informing them that their applications have been rejected and that they will not be able to vote in the leadership election.'

If Corbyn loses...
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« Reply #154 on: August 20, 2015, 05:06:52 PM »

I've cast my vote. I did not use all of my preferences. I've also voted in the other contests.

May I ask who you voted for? It would really help me make some sense out of this, so far I still don't really know what to think.

I doubt either Corbyn or Kendall got a preference. Probably Burnham first and Cooper second.
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« Reply #155 on: August 20, 2015, 05:10:00 PM »

Watson will either be Corbyn's best or worse ally.

I saw something tonight saying that Andy Burnham is going to be offered the Chancellorship over John McDonnell.

The right wouldn't take McDonnell (or any other SCGer) being given Shadow Chancellor well; he'd probably get Shadow Health or something like that. I imagine Hilary Benn would be kept as Shadow Foreign Secretary.
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« Reply #156 on: August 21, 2015, 01:15:50 PM »

More trouble for Corbyn.
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« Reply #157 on: August 22, 2015, 06:28:10 PM »

John Curtice has kind of called it for Corbyn.
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« Reply #158 on: August 23, 2015, 09:17:35 AM »

Assuming that Corbyn's support is as strong as the polls have suggested and assuming that most of it does break for Khan, yes.
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« Reply #159 on: August 24, 2015, 12:42:19 PM »

Gordon Brown has voted 1. Cooper, 2. Burnham, 3. Kendall

Dan Hodges has voted 1. Cooper, 2. Burnham, Watson for Deputy and Abbott (!) for London Mayor
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« Reply #160 on: August 25, 2015, 08:57:45 AM »

Following the 'weeding out', the electorate is down to 553,954 (previously 610,753). However, most of the reduction comes from the affiliates (41,521) rather than the £3ers.
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« Reply #161 on: August 25, 2015, 12:57:09 PM »

Oh dear, Fox News has something to say.
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« Reply #162 on: August 26, 2015, 09:20:35 AM »

An Objectivist thinks that Corbyn is bonkers.
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« Reply #163 on: August 26, 2015, 09:24:50 AM »

isn't it ironic that Corbyn has compromised with the (s)electorate but Kendall has refused to?

Yeah, Flint has ran the type of campaign that (from her POV) Kendall should have run.
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« Reply #164 on: August 27, 2015, 04:39:38 AM »



Some interesting figures; 22% of Britons say they are against the Royals; that must be the highest for some time; higher even than opposition to airstrikes against ISIS. Also, surely tuition fees aren't tuition fees if paid entirely by the government? Also, lol at a large proportion of Kendall supporters who strongly hold positions that would put them in the Socialist Campaign Group if they were MPs.
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« Reply #165 on: August 27, 2015, 09:54:26 AM »
« Edited: August 27, 2015, 09:56:23 AM by Phony Moderate »

Word (well, rumour) is that a majority has yet to cast a vote and that about a third is still undecided; this has led to some Labour insiders not being as convinced about a Corbyn victory as they were a week or so ago. Burnham's camp is putting out data suggesting that a plurality of the undecideds are leaning towards him.
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« Reply #166 on: August 28, 2015, 01:44:37 PM »

The Corbyn-on-35% data came from Burnham's phone bank data which media sources were made aware of.
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« Reply #167 on: August 29, 2015, 10:44:48 AM »

Did anyone see the Newsnight focus groups last night? They were basically the full versions that were in the Buzzfeed article I mentioned earlier

Didn't one of them say that Corbyn's policies are right out of the 60s? Lol, as if that decade wasn't far better to live in than the current one (for the average Brit, anyway). Most of the policies were better too.
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« Reply #168 on: August 29, 2015, 04:23:16 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HaPvHJyNWs#action=share
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« Reply #169 on: August 29, 2015, 07:01:37 PM »

Oh dear, another intervention from the Saint: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34100741

Tip for him: If you don't Corbyn to win, endorse him.
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« Reply #170 on: August 30, 2015, 03:32:19 AM »
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Did anyone see the Newsnight focus groups last night? They were basically the full versions that were in the Buzzfeed article I mentioned earlier

Didn't one of them say that Corbyn's policies are right out of the 60s? Lol, as if that decade wasn't far better to live in than the current one (for the average Brit, anyway). Most of the policies were better too.

1. Abortion was illegal
2. Life expectancy was about a decade shorter
3. Homosexuality was illegal

Yeah, if only we could return to the good old days, eh?

England won the World Cup, which is obviously far more important than any of those facts. Wink Anyway, I was of course speaking in the spur of the moment, though the tide did of course begin to turn on those issues (and quite a few others) during the decade.
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« Reply #171 on: August 30, 2015, 08:39:37 AM »

Denis Healey turns 98 today.
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« Reply #172 on: August 31, 2015, 07:21:11 AM »

I wonder what the size of the selectorate would have been if Corbyn had failed to make the ballot.
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« Reply #173 on: August 31, 2015, 04:09:39 PM »

Labour's strongest seats aren't in university areas, they are depressed urban areas, not all of which are full of ethnic minorities (Indeed many are the opposite, see Tyne and Wear).

Britain is not America. Britain's voting patterns are different to America. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

Yeah, Liverpool, I think, is whiter than the country as a whole.
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« Reply #174 on: September 01, 2015, 08:56:25 AM »

Out of interest does anybody remember Mary Creagh?

No.

Btw, Dan Jarvis is second favourite (after Corbyn) with Ladbrokes to lead Labour in the next GE.
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