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StatesRights
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« on: May 13, 2004, 03:24:59 AM »

Roy Moron doesn't deserve the word "justice" to be anywhere near his title.

It would be funny if Roy Moore gets the position. I would have not problem with Chief Justice Roy Moore.

Roy Moore stood up for the States RIGHT to display a monument in the courthouse.
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2004, 01:40:05 AM »

Well, I have thought this issue out legalistically, and I still believe that the state is violating the Constitution by displaying that monument.

What law is violated? The fictional "seperation of church and state" law?
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2004, 10:24:44 AM »

Um, a pretty clear line of precedent, statute, and any reasonable understanding of the first amendment, which is primarily disfavored by the religious right and those who don't understand the law themselves.

In addition, NixonNow, the president appoints an associate justice to replace the vacancy caused by the new Chief Justice's elevation. That's how Antonin Scalia got on the Court.


Precedent does not equal law. The constitution does not say "seperation of church and state" and to say that's what the founders meant is crazy. Colonial and early American documents are filled with the terms of "God" and "Divine Providence". What the amendment is talking about is that the government will not have a state run religion like the Church Roll Eyes of England. It does not mean the state can't financially support religion(s). No where does it say its unconstitutional to have a 10 commandments monument either. BTW, Polk County Courthouse has a monument to the 10 commandments and no one has challenged it!
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2004, 12:06:48 PM »

Let me remind you that what the founding fathers might have thought about religion in public life is irrelevant. Contemporary jurisprudence must recognize that the phrase "an establishment of religion" might have a distinctly different meaning. The role of our courts is to occasionally redefine the boundaries of Constitutional protections so that they may always encompass the freedoms of all Americans, even as our nation grows and changes. A Supreme Court that can do just that prevents the necessity of adopting a new Constitution every twenty-five years. I, for one, think that this new understanding of government and religion is fundamental to a modern society, and can only benison religious liberty by keeping the government neutral on questions of faith.

Isn't the whole point of this "experiment" called the United States is to stick by the constitution as close to the original document as possible.
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2004, 02:23:32 PM »

I think we can agree to disagree on this issue. I am what they would have called a "strict constitutionalist". Many judges in this country are getting a little out of control allowing Gay Marriage when it's against the law.
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