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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: August 05, 2015, 08:46:03 AM »

Wouldn't Schumer seriously damage his chances of becoming the new Dem leader by voting against his own caucus on such critical issue? Real Democrats certainly shouldn't let that slip.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2015, 10:34:49 AM »

Wouldn't Schumer seriously damage his chances of becoming the new Dem leader by voting against his own caucus on such critical issue? Real Democrats certainly shouldn't let that slip.
I think it might hurt him, but if he doesn't actively try to convince other Democrats and the bill will be passed, then he will be forgiven. Other Democrats will understand that he is not to be envied, as a Jewish senator in New York, the blue state were opposition against the Iran deal might be the highest. Supporting the deal might lead to a serious primary.

Democratic Jews don't care about foreign policy nearly as much as everyone seems to think. Otherwise they'd be solid Republicans by now. Also, despite what Netanyahu wants us to believe, he does not in fact speak for all Jews.

If Schumer fears he'll be primaried, it's just further proof that Democrats need to grow a spine.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2015, 11:48:24 AM »

But a combination of Bibi, Bennett, Herzog, Lapid, Livni, and others do speak for Jews worldwide

lolno

Israeli Jews =/= Jews worldwide, you know?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2015, 03:25:37 PM »


This is what I call a caucus leader. Hopefully Obama can convince him to drop his support for Schumer.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2015, 04:54:41 AM »

Washington Post has in favor Senators and "leaners" at 31, with only 34 needed to sustain a veto.

Based on the "Undecided or unknown" list, here are Senators who have really just issued very vague non-committed statements:

Bennet
Coons
Cardin
Booker
Warner
Cantwell
Murray
Casey

Mikulski and Stabenow are just listed as unknown for no statements at all, but I have a tough time seeing them or the Washington ladies actually voting no. Or Bennet and Cardin for that matter...actually I don't see any of the above voting no, though a few might want to make a fuss about it before finally voting yes. So it seems all but certain the votes to sustain a veto in the Senate are there.

This is what Wyden said:

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It's mind-boggling that all this people are still hesitating, tbh. This should be a no-brainer for any self-respecting Democrat hell, for any self-respecting politician.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2015, 05:32:32 AM »

Why are House Dems lagging so far behind the Senate ones in committing to a vote?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2015, 01:55:46 PM »

Could Colling actually deserve her reputation as a sensible moderate for once by voting Yes?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2015, 03:26:47 AM »

lol @ NYC
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2015, 04:45:30 PM »

Ugh, f**king Cardin, now filibuster is probably out of reach. Sad In Maryland, a primary challenge might be worth a try.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2015, 07:32:12 PM »

WE DID IT! It's a historic deal, and probably Obama's second greatest achievement after Obamacare. The world is a slightly better place today. Smiley
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2015, 08:09:10 PM »


Soo cute to see neocons and True Leftists agree on something! Grin
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2015, 08:10:18 PM »


Too bad nobody gives a sh*t about the former Senator from Illinois.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2015, 10:51:12 PM »

Pope Endorses The Iran Deal

This Pope continues to be awesome! He also calls for the removal of all nuclear weapons from the Middle East (aka Israel).

If there's one source Israel doesn't take orders from, it's the Roman Catholic Church.

Then it's a good thing Israel can't do anything to stop the deal. Smiley
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