Does Trumpism, as a movement that goes beyond the man himself, exist? (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 28, 2024, 11:56:35 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  U.S. General Discussion (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, Chancellor Tanterterg)
  Does Trumpism, as a movement that goes beyond the man himself, exist? (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Poll
Question: Does Trumpism, as a movement that goes beyond the man himself, exist?
#1
Yes
#2
No
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results


Author Topic: Does Trumpism, as a movement that goes beyond the man himself, exist?  (Read 1410 times)
Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,320
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« on: April 26, 2016, 09:57:40 PM »

It's pretty obvious Drumpf speaks to an underlying current of attitudes in the American electorate that goes far beyond himself, yeah.

That said, it's equally obvious that there's no Drumpfism properly speaking.
Logged
Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,320
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2016, 11:04:08 PM »

It's pretty obvious Drumpf speaks to an underlying current of attitudes in the American electorate that goes far beyond himself, yeah.

That said, it's equally obvious that there's no Drumpfism properly speaking.

I would also say that the group of people he speaks is only a small plurality and mostly older, white working class voters. That demographic is disappearing either through death or education, on top of being marginalized by exploding eligible minority voter growth.

I wouldn't be quite as optimistic in this regard. Drumpf's success is tapping into a fundamental trend in Western democracies that we see in Europe as well. There's an increasing number of people that, both for cultural and economic reasons, feel increasingly threatened by globalization and the erosion of strong nation-States. This translates into rejection of a wide range of policies like free trade and immigration (and of course, in the European context, the EU). The problem is, due to how globalization works (especially because of how it generates economic insecurity), the is a lot of people who has lost and will keep losing from it. These "losers" (that's Kriesi's term, not mine), while they will probably never be a majority, will continue to represent an important constituency in the US, and it's very possible that the might control the GOP in the decades to come.

The good news is that a candidate who takes inspiration from Bernie might find an appeal among this electorate, especially if they manage to make the case that the real enemy are corporations and millionaires, not immigrants. But regardless, it is a force to be reckoned.
Logged
Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,320
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2016, 11:05:50 PM »

The only movement/agenda being set for the future in this race is by Sanders, who has the support and admiration of an enormous majority of the Millennial generation.
Most of whom will become steadily more conservative as they get older. Younger generations are supposed to have outlandish world views that are suppressed by older generations. The young overthrowing the old leads to social reform/moral decline, but once they see that the generation after them is even more radical, they cling to their ideology and become the new conservatives. I have faith that most young Sanders (and Clinton) supporters will eventually realize the errors of their ways and I just hope that it happens before they've destroyed their country.

There's very little evidence that that this "liberal at 20, conservative at 50" cliché has any truth to it. Most people's partisan affiliation remains stable after the first 3 election cycles.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.028 seconds with 9 queries.