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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: July 14, 2016, 01:26:25 PM »
« edited: July 14, 2016, 01:27:58 PM by I did not see L.A. »

That's both awesome and not-quite-right.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2016, 01:29:25 PM »

That's pretty cool. I would like to see Trump do the same on the Wall or Muslim ban.

Drumpf doesn't have the intellectual capabilities required to write a 6th Grade English assignment, let alone a scholarly article.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2016, 04:27:44 PM »

That's pretty cool. I would like to see Trump do the same on the Wall or Muslim ban.

Drumpf doesn't have the intellectual capabilities required to write a 6th Grade English assignment, let alone a scholarly article.

To be fair, writing a 6th Grade English assignment (or publishing an academic article) is nothing when compared to building a business empire.

According to your values maybe. Not according to mine.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2016, 03:47:57 AM »

That's pretty cool. I would like to see Trump do the same on the Wall or Muslim ban.

Drumpf doesn't have the intellectual capabilities required to write a 6th Grade English assignment, let alone a scholarly article.

To be fair, writing a 6th Grade English assignment (or publishing an academic article) is nothing when compared to building a business empire.

According to your values maybe. Not according to mine.

I believe he's referring to the effort or ability involved; oughtn't be a value judgment--though perceptions of skills and abilities can, of course, be value-laden.

I mean yeah, there's no denying he has talent for something. It's just that that something happens to contribute very little to social welfare, or arguably even has a net negative impact on it. The value of talent depends on what you do with it.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2016, 05:55:30 AM »

For all his flaws Trump shouldn't be criticized for doing too little for social welfare. Creating job opportunities is about the best you can do for social welfare.

Drumpf's business model is conning people out of their money. He starts a fraudulent project, milks it for all its worth, then lets it crash and burn and uses bankruptcy law to get off scot free. He has rarely if ever created anything of value to society.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2016, 09:02:41 AM »

I'm not surprised you think so. The importance of research (especially social sciences research) to social welfare is terribly underappreciated nowadays, with unfortunate consequences for society. Admittedly I'm defending my own turf here, but why the hell shouldn't I.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2016, 10:14:48 AM »


The constant stream of terrible policy decisions that anyone with a basic knowledge of the state of research in a field would have known to avoid. Education policy is probably the biggest victim, but there are examples everywhere.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2016, 10:55:34 AM »


The constant stream of terrible policy decisions that anyone with a basic knowledge of the state of research in a field would have known to avoid. Education policy is probably the biggest victim, but there are examples everywhere.

So why do you think that social research has such little influence on public policy? What would you do to increase its influence?

I don't know, I haven't done any research on that. Tongue

Seriously though, a good part of it has to do with the fact that policymakers have little incentive to enact good policy. They have an incentive to enact "sexy" policy that can easily be sold to the media and the public (and, in the admittedly anomalous US case, can get through Congress), which is a very different thing.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2016, 11:24:10 AM »


The constant stream of terrible policy decisions that anyone with a basic knowledge of the state of research in a field would have known to avoid. Education policy is probably the biggest victim, but there are examples everywhere.

So why do you think that social research has such little influence on public policy? What would you do to increase its influence?

I don't know, I haven't done any research on that. Tongue

Seriously though, a good part of it has to do with the fact that policymakers have little incentive to enact good policy. They have an incentive to enact "sexy" policy that can easily be sold to the media and the public (and, in the admittedly anomalous US case, can get through Congress), which is a very different thing.

So the West suffers from an excess of democracy? Tongue

Well, dictators have even less incentive to enact good policy.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2016, 11:59:44 AM »

Seriously though, a good part of it has to do with the fact that policymakers have little incentive to enact good policy. They have an incentive to enact "sexy" policy that can easily be sold to the media and the public (and, in the admittedly anomalous US case, can get through Congress), which is a very different thing.

So the West suffers from an excess of democracy? Tongue

Well, dictators have even less incentive to enact good policy.

What about technocrats?

Technocrats are dictators with a fancy name.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2016, 03:59:43 AM »


The constant stream of terrible policy decisions that anyone with a basic knowledge of the state of research in a field would have known to avoid. Education policy is probably the biggest victim, but there are examples everywhere.

So why do you think that social research has such little influence on public policy? What would you do to increase its influence?

I know when I was in grad school for mathematics a few decades ago, it was not unusual for the profs to make fun of social science papers that had made bad use of statistical methods.  Hopefully, the situation has improved, but it certainly had to have had some effect on why social science has been sometimes ignored.

I can only speak for political science, but my assessment is that it's in the process of improving. There's a lot of cutting-edge stuff being done these days, and I'm very lucky to have had professors who were rather "enlightened" in that respect, but at the same time some old habits are hard to change (see the obsession with p-values in most scholarly journals).

Worth noting that a lot of the bad methodological practices that poli sci has been plagued with originate from econometrics, the most "positivist" of all social sciences. By contrast, a lot of the good practices that we're discovering now come from the much-vilified field of psychology.
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