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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: February 27, 2017, 11:07:00 PM »

Well, for starters, life expectancy is basically stagnant in the US right now (because that tends to happen when your welfare state is crap). But more importantly, I find it adorable how this "muh life expectancy is rising!!!!" talking point always neglects to mention whose life expectancy is actually increasing. It isn't that of those who most need pensions to survive after leaving work.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,386
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2017, 11:21:49 PM »

Well, for starters, life expectancy is basically stagnant in the US right now (because that tends to happen when your welfare state is crap). But more importantly, I find it adorable how this "muh life expectancy is rising!!!!" talking point always neglects to mention whose life expectancy is actually increasing. It isn't that of those who most need pensions to survive after leaving work.

Well then guess what, nobody will get anything.  Nice job.

There is a third option. And a fourth. And a fifth. And more.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,386
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2017, 02:06:27 PM »

There's never going to be a solution to this crisis which is "fair" for everyone.  That's why it's a crisis.

Rich person says poor people need to bear the brunt of sacrifices to avoid "a crisis". Neoliberalism at its finest.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2017, 02:07:50 PM »

I thought we were talking about the US specifically and not "some countries". Whatever issues Italy and Germany might have, the situation in the US is different, and all I've seen suggests that Social Security is financially secure for the next decades at least.

And regardless, declining fertility rates are not a fatality, but also something that depends on policies. If you want to get serious at dealing with that, a big part of the solution is providing women with the resources they need to reconcile motherhood and a professional life (eg public childcare, long maternity leaves, etc.).
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