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All Along The Watchtower
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« on: June 15, 2012, 11:09:56 PM »


White people, as a group, are beneficiaries of the hierarchies that are deeply embedded in American society.

This doesn't mean, of course, that every white American benefits individually from those hierarchies. Far from it; most don't, at least not directly.  It just means that a lot more white people are middle class than non-white people in the US, and a lot more whites are upper class than non-whites.

But continue to champion the causes of white middle-to-upper-class America. You won't be out of step with the Republican Party, for one thing.
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All Along The Watchtower
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2012, 03:33:19 PM »


White people, as a group, are beneficiaries of the hierarchies that are deeply embedded in American society.

Where are these "deeply embedded hierarchies" that benefit exclusively white people?  Can you name a few?

I didn't say they benefit exclusively white people. There are many individuals who are not white, who also have benefited (Obama being a good example, for one.) There's a difference, however, between individual variation and a generalization of a group.

The hierarchies are social in nature, and they include access to jobs, housing, education, and other opportunities that white people have had more than non-whites. Why do you deny this?   
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All Along The Watchtower
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2012, 12:04:59 PM »

Those poor oppressed white people! Sad
This attitude goes a long way in supporting this statement. 
Well, yes, the Democrats don't care about middle class people, and especially middle class whites.

That actually meets the definition of irony.  You meant to weaken via mocking and you actually strengthened

White people, as a group, don't need to be actively 'cared about'.


Lots of people don't  need to be taken care of, but the government seems to do so anyway. That creates resentment, and thankfully, the massive exodus of whites from the Democratic party due to the war on whites.


A state like Wisconsin is populated by a majority of non college whites who just voted in a landslide for Scott Walker because he shares their values.

Just to be clear, is your argument here that action taken to benefit minorities who are perceived to be structurally disadvantaged constitutes a 'war on whites' because access to opportunities and services is somehow a zero-sum game?

In the long term, perhaps not. In the short term, government money and government favors are indeed finite. One can offer them either by taking from others, or taxing from others.

In general people favor the idea of lesser tax. This is particularly true of middle class whites!

Why do you suppose that is?
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