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« on: June 03, 2017, 11:05:59 PM »

We live in an age of mass incarceration, growing racial tensions, and serious questions of justice. One Givernor is actually trying to introduce needed reforms to our law enforcement system, and you people deride it as weak or incompetent simply because he is a Republican. Let's not forget that the prison-industrial complex was a Clinton project.

If a Democrat said something equally stupid they'd deserve the same reaction. Sending out 'Prayer Patrols' is not a serious response to crime; it is a deflection of responsibility to his state's citizens by pretending he is doing something while, in reality, doing absolutely nothing. Crime primarily stems from institutional problems - as do nearly all socioeconomic failures. To prevent or reduce crime, it is necessary to reform institutions and policies. You cannot pray away crime, just as you cannot pray away disease, homosexuality, or anything else.

At the same time, the standard law-and-order schtick has done absolutely nothing constructive either and, despite rhetoric to the contrary, Democrats (especially Clinton and Obama) have been just as guilty of perpetuating and exacerbating America's prison-industrial complex and mass incarceration. Punishment is neither a cure nor a deterrent to crime because crime is not a morality issue.

As a Marxist, I am fully aware of the institutional potential to cause crime. One aspect of this is, of course, the tension-riddled relationship between law enforcement and the, shall we say, urban community. This creates a distrusted image of our men and women in uniform and delegitimizes law in the eyes of many an urban youth. This is why I am overjoyed to see Governor Bevin transforming to a potentially far more effective, community-based form of policing, hopefully replacing the lock-'em-up mentality of the past.

The words "effective" and, especially, "policing" do not belong in that last sentence.
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2017, 02:51:53 PM »

This might help a bit to the extent a large group of folks wandering around, might tend to stop criminal activity within their view of sight, in the way a street with a lot of pedestrians might be safer than an empty street. On the other hand, there is a risk that these prayer folks might get hurt. Policing is very high skilled job (or should be), but other than being more sets of eyes, wandering around praying for folks is not "policing."

 that's a kind assessment, Torie comma and not entirely inaccurate period however comma this ignores the fact that local police departments have engaged in helping organize Community block watch and neighborhood watch programs for decades. This is absolutely nothing new. My guess is that if, and only if there are a handful of Bevin partisans who want to organize these prayer watches, they will be minimal and number and, more importantly, will fade out within a couple months when the novelty and issue dies down.

Let me add an additional observation. The communities most in need of additional neighborhood watch patrols are those least supportive of Governor Bevin. I can see all too easily where a number of Bevan zealots organize to conduct prayer Patrol in bad neighborhoods that they have absolutely nothing to do with. This is not exactly Community organizing or self defense against Crime. Little good will come of that scenario, we're a bunch of Republican religious right organizers do prayer Patrols in inner-city Lewisville, Lexington, or Covington.

As previously noted, this is simply Governor Tea Party abdicating responsibility for doing anything about crime levels and the government's responsibility to combat it. This is really no different than that idiot Congressman Walberg saying we shouldn't worry about global warming because God will find a solution for us.
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2017, 03:57:24 PM »


That's not what Jesus said (though we should probably provision them with Holy Water just in case).

They have a vampire problem?

Nah. It's Kentucky. The vampires they have already lost most their teeth. BAH-DUM! CHING!
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2017, 09:20:50 PM »

Again, the issue here isn't that we're going to have religious police like Saudi Arabia whacking people with sticks for not covering their heads and faces, having shorn beards, or hemlines showing ankles. It's the fact he's abdicating his government's responsibility to properly fund law enforcement and instead opting for a grossly lacking publicity gimmick.

Sadly, Bevin probably really thinks will solve everything fine for much the same reason Congressman Tim Walberg recently announced God will save us from global warming.
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