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MyLifeIsYours
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« on: May 04, 2024, 12:14:50 AM »

On the contrary, I've been thinking that a lot of these pro-Palestine "Jews" are not actually Jewish.  I am assuming that the responders to these polls self-identify.  Then, I have found that a lot of people with Jewish "ancestry" consider themselves Jewish, even if they have never participated in a Jewish ceremony, and have no Jewish education whatsoever.  I have also found that a lot of people who claim that they are Jewish actually have a (usually non-observant) Jewish father but a non-Jewish mother, which makes them non-Jewish (unless they are actively practicing Reform Judaism; even then, most non-Reform Jews would still not consider them Jewish).  Or even just a Jewish paternal grandfather, because their last name is Jewish.  I have found that a lot of such people, because of a lack of Jewish - or any religious education - oppose Israel, because reasons.

Then there are the several thousand Satmar Chassids in the USA, who are an entirely different matter.

So who gets to decide which jewish people aren't "real" jews? Just curious.

To the Zionists, anyone that dares to criticize the state of Israel. Israel is off-limits in American political discourse, as you'd be label an antisemite by the people backing the genocide in Gaza. Even when the person in question doing the criticism is Jewish.
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MyLifeIsYours
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2024, 12:21:53 AM »

Atheists backing Palestine. Interesting.

Socialists/left wingers are largely atheist. It would make sense the majority of self identified atheists support the Palestine cause.
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MyLifeIsYours
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2024, 08:50:41 AM »

To the Zionists, anyone that dares to criticize the state of Israel. Israel is off-limits in American political discourse, as you'd be label an antisemite by the people backing the genocide in Gaza. Even when the person in question doing the criticism is Jewish.


Pretty much, which is why they’re especially aggressive towards Jews who support the protesters cause, which makes it harder for them to empty the “antisemitism” cause.

They resort to question the person religion on the first opportunity, which is actual antisemitism but the “good” one that can be weaponized for a “greater cause” in the way they rationalize it, making it acceptable for them.

When Naomi Klein made her powerful speech two weeks back on how Jewish people should have an exodus from Zionism that rapid-Zionist crowd attacked her, said she was a self-hating Jew for saying we should walk back from Israel. They have no qualms about selfish Evangelicals speaking up for their cause, even while their support for Israel is self-centered on the rapture that will punish the Jewish people in the end times, a far more anti-semitic sentiment than counterarguements from actual Jewish people.

People forget the vast majority of Jewish people oppose Zionism through much of the 20th century. It was a fringe movement of bourgeois Ashkenazi Jews who were hostile to the practices of Judaism and were secularists, even while proclaiming God gave them the promised land in the Middle East, an oxymoron if you self-identify as atheist, as David Ben-Gurion and Theodore Herzl did.They saw practicing Jewish people of faith as being weak-minded and inferior to their perception of how Jews should stand in the world that is hostile to their existence.
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