Irish immersion (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 02, 2024, 07:42:47 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  Individual Politics (Moderator: The Dowager Mod)
  Irish immersion (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Poll
Question: Would you support exclusively Irish Gaelic language teaching in schools?
#1
Yes
 
#2
No
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 29

Author Topic: Irish immersion  (Read 2190 times)
Oakvale
oakvale
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,827
Ukraine
Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -4.00

« on: December 14, 2014, 12:07:08 PM »

No, this would be a ridiculous policy. The language must be gently put down like a lame dog and its advocates driven into the sea.

Such institutions already exist - they are called Gaelscoils (or rather, Gaelscoileanna). They are more widespread and successful than you might expect. But doesn't exactly mean they are closer to revitalizing gaeilge as the language of daily life.

If by 'widespread and successful' you mean popular among parents who'd rather their children didn't associate with the lower classes and immigrant types in 'normal' schools then yes.
Logged
Oakvale
oakvale
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,827
Ukraine
Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -4.00

« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2014, 12:10:29 PM »

Maybe if they'd start spelling their words like sane people. It's no wonder the perfidious Britons subjugated them so easily with all that Caisreaghfoibaughmeach nonsense.

The correct spelling is actually "curry my yoghurt can coca coalyer".
Logged
Oakvale
oakvale
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,827
Ukraine
Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -4.00

« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2014, 12:52:44 PM »

No, this would be a ridiculous policy.

Agreed, but...

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.

...why? Why and under what circumstances is it acceptable to say that of any language? That's an incredibly, and definitionally, pernicious sentiment, in fact one for which I would have much stronger words than 'pernicious' except I don't want to be accused of excessive hyperbole or excessive SJW-ism.

When I say "advocates" I'm specifically referring to, well, the kind of people who send to their children to gaelscoils and have neatly redefined the concept of Irishness so that they are more Irish than anyone else by virtue of their keeping a dying (and irrelevant) language on life support.
Logged
Oakvale
oakvale
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,827
Ukraine
Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -4.00

« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2014, 05:16:57 PM »

The substance of oakvale's criticism of these folks is actually by and large quite correct, but– and I realize that saying this out loud will probably brand me as a soft-brained ubersentitive SJW or something, but what-the-f**k-ever– I cannot think of a case where that sort of "drive 'em into the sea!" rhetoric is really ever appropriate or even funny.  And even if there was such a case, it certainly wouldn't be this.

Huh

Would you prefer I'd simply posted "Ugh Irish language advocates"? It amounts to the same thing, I just exaggerated with some colourful imagery. Off a cliff?

e: Down a well.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.029 seconds with 13 queries.