Zombies, Parties, Elections, and Stuff

[Alexander Hamilton]

I signed up for Atlasia on my 26th post. No I did not know much about what I was getting into. However, I am now one of the most active people here and to me, it is a worthwhile experience. Some come, some stay, some leave, but regardless, Atlasia is not an exclusive VIP club, we should be open to all who express interest.

[Alexander Hamilton]

There is a lot of hypocrisy being thrown around. I haven't seen many of the new RPPers spamming their way around the message board (I really haven't seen much from them at all, not sure where they are posting), but I sure have seen sewersocialist trolling and spamming, yet he's a respected member of Atlasia and almost was endorsed by the NLF. Until "standards" like that change, this argument is just a lot of hot air from both sides and tough to be taken seriously.

And the JCP!

[Alexander Hamilton]

I agree with pretty much everything Duke has said. This has gone way over the top. There is no proof, not even signs, of offsite recruiting (besides supposedly cindywho, but who the hell is she anyways). All this complaining does is make the game less fun, because really, we should be open to anyone who wants to participate (non-troll).

[Alexander Hamilton]

As Marokai has already stated, guys, only cindywho is the only one who was admittedly recruited off-site. The behavior of other new RPP members (rushing to post enough to meet requirements, registering right at deadlines) make it clear that cindywho wasn't really just an isolated incident. I don't see how we can assume other posters with similar behavior to her somehow weren't brought here the same way.

Duke, I understand what you're saying but I think you seriously misunderstand my intentions. I'm totally cool with the RPP beating the JCP. I mean, everyone would prefer to win, but I definitely know that you just gotta roll with the punches sometimes. I made such a big deal over this because it transcends the JCP/RPP competition and just shows that someone out there cares so much about winning that they'll ruin the game to do it. Seriously, say the current trend continues and Atlasia becomes 10% cindywho's. Wouldn't that just suck for everyone? It wouldn't be about competition anymore, it would just be about whatever faction can recruit a big enough herd to push to the polls. I don't want to see Atlasia become like that, and unfortunately the practices I've pointed out in this thread show that we're already on that path.

Also, Duke, note my descriptions of people on the fourth page; the spamming that occurs isn't blatant or widespread just because the numbers needed are so low. Half of azmagic's last-minute post rush for example were a single conversation with Hamilton.

I'll admit that perhaps I overstated the numbers- some posters that seemed peculiar to me at first later had explainable histories- but I do think that it's obvious something fishy is going on. I've never accused the RPP as a whole, mind you, but I think it's obvious someone behind the scenes is recruiting people for their own benefit. Hell, for all I know Hamilton is really Ogis and he's just getting some of his troll friends in on it too (not an accusation!).

Also Duke I don't really know anyone that respects sewer socialist much, actually. More toleration than anything else. I'm really annoyed by the guy all the time, if that counts for anything. I do understand where you're coming from, though- though I'd prefer if this doesn't devolve into a silly "JCP ZOMBEIS VS. RPP ZOMBIES" thing, because the recruited voters I've mentioned don't really have an equivalence anywhere else. My party's "zombies" are, like I've said, active posters who just don't do the whole "political squabbling" thing in Atlasia. Your party has members like that, like Torie, dead0man, Brandon most of the time. I don't see any problem with those guys. My problem is solely with the people who are on this forum just to give someone extra votes, and if you really look at the evidence I've been posting I think you will notice that some degree of manipulation like that has definitely been occurring.

My conversation with azmagic was legitimate and non-trollish and productive. And I'd jsut like to remind you that the RPP feels having Flyers, Sensei, BRTD, phknrocket1k, etc. voting ruins the game a bit more than people that are new but still occasionally post here.