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Vepres
Junior Chimp
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« on: June 22, 2009, 01:52:35 PM »

Because "global warming" is a political issue, not a scientific one.

It was an idea, not fact, until environmentalists realized they could use it to their advantage. We had one of our coldest, snowiest winters in Colorado just two years ago.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2009, 02:12:12 PM »

Because "global warming" is a political issue, not a scientific one.

It was an idea, not fact, until environmentalists realized they could use it to their advantage. We had one of our coldest, snowiest winters in Colorado just two years ago.

Is that anecdotal evidence masquerading as a replacement for scientific evidence?

"Look here, I take a shit in a toilet, so don't tell me Man is related to apes."

I didn't deny global warming anywhere in there. I'm just saying that it is not yet, fact. It cannot be fact until some questions (like the ones above) are answered. Personally, I'm undecided but want to take action anyway.

And by the way, that cold winter was all across North America, I believe (may be wrong).
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2009, 02:33:49 PM »

Hasn't the average global temperature been static, or even declining slightly, for the past decade or so? I remember reading that somewhere.

Regardless, it's better to get pollutants out of the air, whether global warming is real or not.
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Vepres
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2009, 11:08:14 PM »

It's difficult to answer because Gorebull warming is a crock of sh**t.

Is that your expert scientific opinion, hack?

No, just the founder of the Weather Channel, among many other climatologists.

Regardless of the opinion of one man who founded a TV station, I'll trust the opinon of 97.4% of climatologists (cite) than a few conservative political talk show hosts on this issue...

These are the same people that said we were headed for an ice age in the 1970s.

The world-wide climate is chaotic an complex, hard to predict or model. A climatologist is like an economist, their "predictions" are about as good as some random Joe on the street.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2009, 03:20:01 PM »

These are the same people that said we were headed for an ice age in the 1970s.
To even suggest that the news fad of "ice age coming soon" in the 1970's reached even a fraction of the level of scientific consensus that global warming has today is more than just laughable.

32,000 Scientists disagree with you.
Haha, Oregon Petition.  One of the most well-known jokes...in fact, I'm surprised anyone has heard of it other than in the context that it's completely invalid.
The reason it's invalid is because the vast majority of the signatories aren't climatologists.  They're veteranarians, chemists, and the like, and only 200 of that 32,000 are climate scientists.  That's a small fraction of the number of climatologists out there.

StatesRights does have a point. If the scientific community views global warming as fact, than why can't they answer these questions.

By the way, if the world is warming, why was the average temperature steady or even declining slightly the past decade?

I'm not a denier, I think a healthy level of skepticism is necessary.
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