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Sumner 1868
tara gilesbie
Junior Chimp
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« on: March 15, 2015, 08:36:06 PM »

The left always think they are the majority being blocked my a small moneyed minority in some conspiracy.

Read the article, there's more to it then just that and it's backed with data.

statistics and liars

Like St. Ronald and his drug-runners?
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Sumner 1868
tara gilesbie
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2015, 01:27:50 AM »

I personally think that 1972 was the real shift, with 1984 merely an echo.
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Sumner 1868
tara gilesbie
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2015, 01:34:02 AM »

If only Gary Hart hadn't had his indiscretion and dropped out in 1988. A non third-way Democrat beating Bush would be awesome. No President Bush. No other President Bush. Probably no President Clinton. And Hart would have been a decent President.

Hart was considered Third Way in 1984, though he was moving somewhat leftward in 1987.
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Sumner 1868
tara gilesbie
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2015, 04:54:46 PM »

Lolz. Salondotcom pseudo-history is always hilarious. "In reality, the Democrats would clearly win all teh electionz if they were just more liberal. Walter Mondale was really an icky rightwing conservative bluedog. Stagflation was a wonderful thing for teh peeplz and icky rightwing conservative Paul Volcker stopped this wonderful inflation. Clearly being more liberal is the answer because muh minimum wage ballot initiatives!"

Wow.
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Sumner 1868
tara gilesbie
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2015, 05:04:03 PM »

I think the 20th century left died when Khruschev's Secret Speech where he admitted that Stalin really was a HP leaked to the Israelis. As recently as 1938, respectable people had been saying the Soviet Union was a progressive state that would never sign a pact with Hitler. Even Sputnik 18 months later couldn't make up for that.

I don't agree, given the events of the 1960s.
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Sumner 1868
tara gilesbie
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2015, 08:11:29 PM »
« Edited: March 18, 2015, 08:18:21 PM by tara gilesbie »

It is amazing how clueless American liberals are. The US has higher per capita spending per beneficiary, compared to other OECD nations. Yet, according to left-wing Democrats, the socioeconomic catastrophe and lack of benefits caused by American spendthrift is actually the work of naughty neoliberals, defense-hawks, and heartless budget cuts.

America liberals are spoiled little teenagers who can't figure out why indiscretion and laziness aren't reaping the dividends they'd hoped for. They talk like neoliberals about investment and other nice-sounding concepts, but it's time to redirect spending, they have an existential breakdown.

Genuinely useless people whose reckless display of incompetence invites plutocratic despotism.

Typical "balanced budget" fanatic. Nonsensical rant with no substance whatsoever.
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