Zombies, Parties, Elections, and Stuff

[California8429]

I am bumping this because more people should read it. I've had several people talk to me through PM relating their own concerns to mine, and I know other people are out there who've seen all this nonsense too.

What exactly would you do to solve this problem Mr. Vice-President?

What can be done? The damage has already occured, and there's really no way to legislate against it all. The only thing I can really ask for is that those involved actually make an admission of guilt, and that the rest of Atlasia can see this evidence and know what's really going on.

Zombies wouldn't be able to plead guilty anyways if they only vote.

We have members who aren't very active on this part of the fourm but otherwise very active elsewhere. They still know the other people/candidates.

[California8429]

No one has explained to me how "zombie reform" wouldn't do more harm than good yet, which is why I'm still opposed to anymore of it. In fact, I favor repealing some of it. You can't ramp up requirements anymore without hurting normal people.

[California8429]

I am bumping this because more people should read it. I've had several people talk to me through PM relating their own concerns to mine, and I know other people are out there who've seen all this nonsense too.

What exactly would you do to solve this problem Mr. Vice-President?

What can be done? The damage has already occured, and there's really no way to legislate against it all. The only thing I can really ask for is that those involved actually make an admission of guilt, and that the rest of Atlasia can see this evidence and know what's really going on.

Zombies wouldn't be able to plead guilty anyways if they only vote.

We have members who aren't very active on this part of the fourm but otherwise very active elsewhere. They still know the other people/candidates.

I'm not talking about the zombies pleading guilty, I'm talking about the people who brought them here.

For example, A-Bob, who invited you to Atlasia? I assume it was also the guy that told you to make the twenty posts the hour before you joined so that you'd be eligible?

A-Bob jumped the gun, I and few others had been in contact with him, but before he could be contacted again, he spammed those posts, and then joined, in the Pacific on is own. If we were influencing him, we would have had him join the Midwest. I wish we did have as much influence and control over the newbies as you claim.

I was thinking of joining the Mideast too actually.

[California8429]

I am bumping this because more people should read it. I've had several people talk to me through PM relating their own concerns to mine, and I know other people are out there who've seen all this nonsense too.

What exactly would you do to solve this problem Mr. Vice-President?

What can be done? The damage has already occured, and there's really no way to legislate against it all. The only thing I can really ask for is that those involved actually make an admission of guilt, and that the rest of Atlasia can see this evidence and know what's really going on.

Zombies wouldn't be able to plead guilty anyways if they only vote.

We have members who aren't very active on this part of the fourm but otherwise very active elsewhere. They still know the other people/candidates.

I'm not talking about the zombies pleading guilty, I'm talking about the people who brought them here.

For example, A-Bob, who invited you to Atlasia? I assume it was also the guy that told you to make the twenty posts the hour before you joined so that you'd be eligible?

A-Bob jumped the gun, I and few others had been in contact with him, but before he could be contacted again, he spammed those posts, and then joined, in the Pacific on is own. If we were influencing him, we would have had him join the Midwest. I wish we did have as much influence and control over the newbies as you claim.

I was thinking of joining the Mideast too actually.

THe mideast and Midwest are two different regions, dummy. Didn't you at least read the Introductory thread? Don't move now unless you really want to you can only move once per 6 weeks.

I know. Which is why I was thinking of joining the Mideast as I said above. Screw the midwest.

I was pointing out that I wasn't recruited to be in the Pacific region persa.
1) What makes you think I'd move?
2) You should be more careful calling people dummies, especially when you're wrong

[California8429]

I'll be honest, maybe I've gotten a bit caught up in the crusade element of all of this, but there's definitely something game-breaking going on here. It's unparalleled by anything else that anyone's doing. Look at the following examples to see how obvious it is that there's some sort of external manipulation. I couldn't care less if they don't post in Fantasyland, but can you not tell, MJ, how much this all reeks?

Luis Gonzalez
mid 2008: makes 20 posts, disappears by October
March 29th to March 31st 2009: makes 20 posts, giving him enough posts to register
April 1st: registers in Atlasia, joins RPP, makes five more posts
April 19th: votes for RPP Senate candidates, never posts again.

cindywho2212
June 1st 2009: Creates Atlas account, posts once
June 3rd: posts 24 times in 3 hours, giving her exactly enough posts to register. She then registers in the RPP.
June 18th: makes a single post, casting a ballot for RPP candidates
July 10th: after a month away, shows up to cast a ballot for the RPP. Participates in a few other discussions later in the day then never posts again.
She is later admitted to have been openly recruited from elsewhere on the internet.

Libertas
July 8-10 2009: Creates Atlas account, posts around forty times, registers with the RPP in Atlasia as soon as he has enough posts. Stays active over the next few days.
mid-August: shows back up, posts again, votes RPP party line.

A-Bob
June-July: posts maybe a dozen times
early August: again, posts a few times
August 10th: posts twenty times in two hours, registers for the RPP upon meeting the activity requirements, only a day before the cutoff for voting in the August elections

azmagic
July 30th: joins forum, posts a few times
August 12-13: posts thirty times in a few hours, registering for the RPP in Atlasia as soon as possible (missing the cutoff for voting this weekend by mere minutes).

ajc0918
June 20: creates account, posts once
Late July-August 8: posts 15 times
August 13, early AM: post 34 times in an hour. Registers for the RPP in Atlasia immediately upon meeting the activity requirements. Misses the cutoff for voting this weekend by mere minutes.
Like azmagic above, later attempts to vote RPP party line. Hamilton and DWTL claim their votes should count because the two registered before midnight Pacific time.


But yeah, it's things like the above that practically advertise how something is really amiss. "Zombies" isn't even that good of a word to describe them, but people are definitely being bussed in from elsewhere with the sole intention of providing more votes for the RPP. How else did ajc and azmagic know they needed to spam the activity requirements and register right before the deadline? Who told A-Bob to spam for an hour until he met the requirements? Who reminded Libertas to come back after a month away? Note especially the blatancy of the first two cases, before presumably whoever is behind all this learned to mask it. Luis and cindywho are the literal zombies, posting the bare minimum and going away after doing their job and giving the RPP votes. Presumably they are the most obvious cases because the suspicion generated from it led others to be more careful about it, but it's still obvious. Newbies knowing how many posts they need to register, knowing exactly when to register by, and all casting identical ballots. While there aren't any extremely obvious cases like Cindy and Luis, it's still pretty clear that these voters are being manipulated.

Honestly, what good comes out of this? Fantasyland exists for Atlasia, not the other way around.

In my defense I didn't know we even had a deadline to be able to vote until today