Mock Parliament Diplomacy

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I greatly fear relations with the Mock Parliament may be, due to still strong mutual hostility and strictly technical reasons, unworkable.

The technical reasons I'm referring to is that we're in two diffrent universes. Unless both games have a joint GM or other game engine like that, there will be no plausibility and contradiction after contradiction.

I strongly prefer Griffin's idea of introducing second playable country to our universe instead.

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I greatly fear relations with the Mock Parliament may be, due to still strong mutual hostility and strictly technical reasons, unworkable.

The technical reasons I'm referring to is that we're in two diffrent universes. Unless both games have a joint GM or other game engine like that, there will be no plausibility and contradiction after contradiction.

I strongly prefer Griffin's idea of introducing second playable country to our universe instead.

With the existence of two actual nations, there'd be no need for a GM to make up stuff about Hollande being assassinated in order to have a fun foreign policy.

With strictly bilateral relations, maybe, but what about the rest of the world? It would be a bit silly to pretend it disappeared.

Every real diplomacy game should include some impartial engine. It opens lots of great possibilities. Otherwise our whole "diplomacy" will be boring as well. We may at best make a few empty treaties.

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The "diplomacy" in Atlasia, existing as it does in a vacuum, has been in every respect a massive failure. At its best our foreign policy consisted of the SoEA writing fanfic about his heroic efforts on behalf of Middle East peace.

Yes, but having a second playable country is not the same as existing in a vacuum. Very few actually advocated that.

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Let's wait a few months to see if Mock Parliment can sustain itself this time. They have just elected their first parliament but instead of there being excitement and lively debates it all looks rather bland and boring to me, to be honest.

This.

Also, Atlasia's first priority must be recovery and rebuilding, before we may even think of going there.

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Why? I'm not particularly keen on having LOL NUKES if I can avoid it.

So you want to play diplomatic relations yet at the same time you want to operate like Atlasia and South America are in diffrent universe? Because that how things are going to be without any synchronization. It doesn't make a slightest sense.

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Why? I'm not particularly keen on having LOL NUKES if I can avoid it.

So you want to play diplomatic relations yet at the same time you want to operate like Atlasia and South America are in diffrent universe? Because that how things are going to be without any synchronization. It doesn't make a slightest sense.

The GM position in Atlasia is an utter irrelevance and it's long past time we stop pretending it mattered.

So what are you proposing? Total lack of synchronisation and the entire "diplomacy" between Atlasia and South America reduced to exchanging some meaningless empty notes and making some treaties of no consequence whatsoever? This is hardly an improvement from, as you called it a few posts above, a "SoEA writing fanfic about his heroic efforts on behalf of Middle East peace."

Game Moderation, as it was being done in Atlasia up to this point, is not the only model possible. I invite you to look at some of Lumine's diplomacy games for a really good model.

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As a matter of fact, not really. Maybe you should've actually familiarize yourself with the developments before criticizing it just to criticize?

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I don't reject the idea of diplomacy between Atlasia and Mock Parliament. To the contrary, if done right it can be very interesting. Very few are interested in isolationism and retaining a failed status quo. But certain conditions must be fulfilled in order to make the idea both workable and actually worthy of anyone's time and efforts. Without synchronization of universes and, most preferably, some engine, the entire diplomacy will be limited to exchanging a couple of meaningless notes and maybe making some treaties of no consequence whatsoever. And that's hardly any real improvement from (and I like this phrase very much, Oakvale) a "SoEA writing fanfic about his heroic efforts on behalf of Middle East peace." With this attitude, setting another playable state within the Atlasian universe makes much more sense.

Second, the timing is not very good, since Atlasia first need to rebuild and that should be our only focus now.

As of moving the Mock Parliament sections, I can speak only for myself: that doesn't bother me at all. Why the hell not?