Top Ten Presidents

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1. Abraham Lincoln (R)
2. George Washington (F, would be an R if living today)
3. John Adams (F, but by today's standards would be an R)
4. Ronald Reagan (R)
5. Harry Truman (D)
6. John Kennedy (D) - for the moon push at least and first tax cuts in awhile
7. Calvin Coolidge (R)
8. Thomas Jefferson (D) - I hate some of the stuff he did though
9. George W. Bush (R) - can we count the first 5 years
10. Bill Clinton (D)

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1. Abraham Lincoln (R)
2. George Washington (F, would be an R if living today)
3. John Adams (F, but by today's standards would be an R)
4. Ronald Reagan (R)
5. Harry Truman (D)
6. John Kennedy (D) - for the moon push at least and first tax cuts in awhile
7. Calvin Coolidge (R)
8. Thomas Jefferson (D) - I hate some of the stuff he did though
9. George W. Bush (R) - can we count the first 5 years
10. Bill Clinton (D)

Intresting list. Be prepared for a Democratic barrage of insults.

I dont know why he would be insulted since he picked as many Ds as he did Rs  and in my opinion his first three and his 10th pick were very good and 5 and 6 are ok. So mostly a decent list.    9 is a bizarre choice and it doesnt make sense to me that he would pick 8 and then say he hates what he did.   

8. Some of the things he did and his lifestyle infuriates me.  There were huge things that he did for this country and he deserves recognition for those things.
9. Isn't so bizarre if you believe that Bush did great things (the tax cuts, 9/11 response, additionally Roberts and Alito (though those two didn't happen until the later years).  The reason why I cite the first five is because amnesty, medicare reform and Harriet Miers came after that.

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1. Abraham Lincoln (R)
2. George Washington (F, would be an R if living today)
3. John Adams (F, but by today's standards would be an R)
4. Ronald Reagan (R)
5. Harry Truman (D)
6. John Kennedy (D) - for the moon push at least and first tax cuts in awhile
7. Calvin Coolidge (R)
8. Thomas Jefferson (D) - I hate some of the stuff he did though
9. George W. Bush (R) - can we count the first 5 years
10. Bill Clinton (D)

Intresting list. Be prepared for a Democratic barrage of insults.

I dont know why he would be insulted since he picked as many Ds as he did Rs  and in my opinion his first three and his 10th pick were very good and 5 and 6 are ok. So mostly a decent list.    9 is a bizarre choice and it doesnt make sense to me that he would pick 8 and then say he hates what he did.   

8. Some of the things he did and his lifestyle infuriates me.  There were huge things that he did for this country and he deserves recognition for those things.
9. Isn't so bizarre if you believe that Bush did great things (the tax cuts, 9/11 response, additionally Roberts and Alito (though those two didn't happen until the later years).  The reason why I cite the first five is because amnesty, medicare reform and Harriet Miers came after that.

I think you're right that Bush presidency is dragged down a lot by the post-Katrina period. IDK if that's enough to make top 9 however, but then again, Jefferson was awful as well.

Yeah, I was thinking about the historical significance in our security shift - where we went from proactive and reactive.  The strength of the Bush doctrine has endured as well because Obama clearly has not dismantled several aspects of it (as of now...)

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9. Isn't so bizarre if you believe that Bush did great things (the tax cuts, 9/11 response, additionally Roberts and Alito (though those two didn't happen until the later years).  The reason why I cite the first five is because amnesty, medicare reform and Harriet Miers came after that.

Since I dont see any great things that he did, its bizarre to me. 

But even trying to look at it from your point of view, you are saying that 40% of his presidency should be ignored so that the other 60% qualifies him as a top president.

Yes, because part of my measurement is looking at enduring policy positions and the Bush foreign policy has and will continue to dominate the foreign policy arena for years to come.  Obama has basically adopted nearly every plank (with the grandstanding to appease his supporters).  And if both parties can accept it as they do - it either means that the ideologues believe its right or necessary and is in someway beneficial to this nation.