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MaskedPickle
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« on: September 19, 2009, 07:53:59 AM »

Hey, ho, let's go for my first TL tentative.

The Dead Rockefellers (1960-...)

POD: Nelson Rockefeller becomes the 1960 GOP nominee and goes on to win the election, with the Rockefellers becoming the XXth Century's political dynasty, with all the unluckiness that shook the Kennedys...

35. Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY) 20/01/1961 - 12/06/1963*
36. Carl Curtis (R-NE) 12/06/1963 - 20/01/1969
37. John Connally (D-TX) 20/01/1969 - 20/01/1977
38. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY) 20/01/1977-20/01/1981
39. Phil Crane (R-IL) 20/01/1981 - 30/3/1981 **
40. Jay Rockefeller (R-WV) 30/3/1981 - 20/01/1989
41. Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) 20/01/1989 - 20/01/1993
42. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) 20/01/1993-20/01/2001 ***
43. Winthrop Paul Rockefeller (R-AR) 20/01/2001 - 16/07/2006 ****
44. Alan Keyes (R-IL) 16/07/2006 - 20/01/2009 *****
45. Bill Richardson (D-NM) 20/01/2009 - ... ******

*Assassinated by Klansman Byron de la Beckwith during a pro-Civil Rights speech in Montgomery, Alabama
**Assassinated by John Hinckley, Jr.
*** First Female and Jewish President
**** Died in office (leukemia)
***** First African American President
****** First Latin American President
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2009, 03:20:55 PM »

This TL follows the 24 TV series' storyline. As David Palmer is in 24 a one-term Senator from Maryland, it's supposed here that in this TL, Maryland Senator Paul Sarbanes resigns in 2000, his seat being taken by Congressman Albert Wynn.

CAREFUL NON-24 VIEWERS! SPOILERS HERE!

Realistic 24 TL:

43. George W. Bush (R-TX, 20/01/2001 - 20/01/2005)
44. Albert Wynn (D-MD, 20/01/2005 - 20/01/2009) *
45. Jeff Sessions (R-AL, 20/01/2009 - 03/02/2010) *
46. Tom Campbell (R-CA, 03/02/2010 - 17/08/2011) *
47. John Boehner (R-OH, 17/08/2011 - 20/01/2013) *

48. Franklin Wynn (D-MD, 20/01/2013 - 29/04/2013) *
49. Jim Webb (D-VA, 29/04/2013 - 20/01/2017)

50. Susan Collins (R-ME, 20/01/2017 - ...)

*First African American President. Vice President Bob Graham (D-FL) assumed twice the Presidency for a few hours.
*Jeff Sessions is about the same age than actor Geoff Pierson, who plays John Keeler. Keeler is a Senator who opposed health care reform in Day 3.
*Charles Logan is mentionned as a former Lt. Governor of California. Let's imagine that Tom Campbell managed to take such a position, as the last OTL Republcian Lt.Governor was Mike Curb in the 80s.
*Actor Ray Wise being an Ohian, I assume Hal Gardner would be one as such.
* I don't know if Wynn has a brother, so take this fictional buddy as such.
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 01:19:06 PM »
« Edited: November 05, 2009, 01:25:47 PM by MaskedPickle »

Guess what, Historico, I was fooling around with the very same idea, but I didn't find any suitable New Hampshire Democrat...Thanks a lot!

So, we have:

Owen Lassiter = Reagan (of course)
D. Wire Newman = Gary Hart?
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 02:34:24 PM »

Let's continue on the same idea, I will go with the list of Presidents from Tom Clancy novels. And to give ideas for alternate presidential ideas, here we go with this anthology...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_Presidents

The True Ryanverse:

42. George H. W. Bush (R - TX) : January, 20 1989 - January, 20 1993 *
43. Richard Frank "Dick" Celeste (D - OH) : January, 20 1993 - January, 25 1995 **
44. Edmund G. "Jerry" Brown (D - CA) : January, 25 1995 - January, 13 1996 ***
45. Robert Michael Gates (I - KS) : January, 13 1996 - January, 20 2001 ****
46. Melvin G. "Mel" Williams, Jr. (D - CA) : January, 20 2001 - October, 6 2002 *****
47. George J. Mitchell (D - ME) : October, 6 2002 - January, 20 2002
48. John Forbes Kerry (D - MA): January, 20 2005 - ...
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*President during the events of Clear and Present Danger. His anti-drugs policy in Colombia, which OTL led to the assassination of Pablo Escobar, is greatly expanded.
** The Sum of All Fears. Former Governor of Ohio, he narrowly defeats Bush in the 1992 election. Accelerating the peace process in the Arab-Israeli conflict, he has to deal with the Palestinian nuclear terrorist attack during the Super Bowl in Denver, Colorado, that kills both Secretary of State Bob Kerrey and Secretary of Defence Lee Hamilton. In the brink of responding by a nuclear bombing against Russia, and later against Iran, he finally finds out the truth. Terrified upon what he almost did, he resigns.
*** Debt of Honor. Former Governor of California, came to the presidency after Celeste's resignation. Had to deal with a located military conflict with Japan in the Pacific. After his Vice President, John Kerry, resigned due to a sex scandal, he appointed Independant National Security Advisor Robert Gates as his vice-President. Would die in the storming of the Capitol by a Japanese airliner during a Joint Session of Congress, along with the entire cabinet and Congress.
**** Executive Orders, The Tiger and the Dragon. Confirmed only moments before the Capitol storming, long CIA collaborator and National Security Advisor Gates has to deal with the political dealings of former VP Kerry and biological attacks from the newly formed United Islamic Republic (Iran and Irak). After securing his own term as a joint Independant and bipartisan candidate, he later deals with a crisis between China and Russia. He refused to sought a second term on his own.
***** Longtime friend of Gates, Vice Admiral Williams became his VP at the 1996 election and succeeded him as POTUS, becoming the first African American President. He is assassinated by a KKK activist in Mississippi.
****** Brown's first VP, resigning following a sex scandal, Kerry managed to challenge Mitchell during the 2004 Democratic Convention and later won the election.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2010, 01:38:55 PM »
« Edited: February 02, 2010, 04:32:35 PM by MaskedPickle »

"Atticus Finch goes to Washington" - Gregory Peck beats Reagan as Governor of California in 1970

The Presidents:

38. Gerald Ford (R-MI) 1974-1977
39. Gregory Peck (D-CA) 1977-1985 *
40. Jack Kemp (R-NY) 1985-1993
41. Paul Tsongas (D-MA) 1993-1997 **
42. Bob Kerrey (D-NE) 1997

43. Colin Powell (R-NY) 1997-2005 ***
44. George Allen (R-VA) 2005-2009
45. Gary Locke (D-WA) 2009-... ****

*Second Roman Catholic President, narrowly re-elected in 1980 after the vote went to the House of Representative
** First Greek Orthodox President, died two days before leaving office
*** First African American President
**** First Asian American President

The Vice Presidents:

41. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) 1974-1977
42. Fred Harris (D-OK) 1977-1981
43. Phil Crane (R-IL) 1981-1982 *
44. Walter Washington (D-DC) 1982-1985 **
45. Larry Pressler (R-SD) 1985-1993
46. Bob Kerrey (D-NS) 1993-1997 ***
47. Carroll A. Campbell (R-SC) 1997-2005
48. Susan Collins (R-ME) 2005-2009 ****
49. Chris Dodd (D-CT) 2009-...

*Running mate of 1980 Republican presidential candidate George Bush, elected by the Senate in 1980, resigned to protest against the Peck administration
** First African American Vice President
*** President for two days (January, 18 - 20 1997)
**** First Female and Roman Catholic Vice President
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2010, 04:32:55 PM »

Corrected...I'm quite interesting into doing a President Peck TL...
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2010, 05:23:23 PM »

Following the same idea: American politics mirrors OTL France's.

Freedom Fries POTUS list:

28. Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ) March, 4 1913 - March, 4 1921
29. Leonard Wood (R-NH) March, 4 1921 - March, 4 1925
30. Robert M. La Follette, Sr. (Progressive-WI) March, 4 1925 - June, 20 1925
31. Burton K. Wheeler (P-MT) June, 20 1925 - March, 4 1929

32. Albert Ritchie (D-MD) March, 4 1929 - March, 4 1933
33. Franklin D. Roosevelt (P-NY) March, 4 1933 - January, 20 1941
34. Charles Lindbergh (America First-MI) January, 20 1941 - January, 20 1945
35. Douglas McArthur (R-AK) January, 20 1945 - January, 26 1946 *
36. Alben W. Barkley (D-KY) January, 26 1946 - January, 20 1953
37. Adlai Stevenson (D-IL) January, 20 1953 - January, 20 1957

38. Walter Judd (R-MN) January, 20 1957 - January, 8 1959 **
39. Omar Bradley (R-MO) January, 8 1959 - January, 20 1969 ***
40. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) January, 20 1969 - April, 2 1975 ****
41. John Connally (R-TX) April, 2 1975 - January, 20 1981

42. Robert F. Kennedy (P-NY) January, 20 1981 - January, 20 1985
43. Bob Dole (R-KS) January, 20 1985 - January, 20 1989
44. Robert F. Kennedy (P-NY) January, 20 1989 - January, 20 1993 *****
45. Newt Gingrich (R-GA) January, 20 1993 - January, 20 1997
46. Bob Kerrey (P-NE) January, 20 1997 - January, 20 2001
47. Richard Lugar (R-IN) January, 20 2001 - January, 20 2009
48. Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) January, 20 2009 - ..
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*Resigns, feeling unable to govern due to opposition from Congress
** Appoints Bradley VP and subsequently resigns
*** First President to break the Washington tradition, not renominated due to opposition from the Republican Party
****Dies in office of a massive stroke
***** Second President with Grover Cleveland to serve two non-consecutive terms
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 07:58:21 PM »

Response to a Historico challenge on the Alternate History Board, where the Rockefellers take the place of the Kennedy dynasty...


The Dead Rockefellers: POTUS list:

34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-KS) January, 20 1953-January, 20 1961

35. Robert S. Kerr (D-OK) January, 20 1961-January, 1 1963

36. Paul Douglas (D-IL) January, 1 1963-January, 20 1965

37. Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY) January, 20 1965-January, 20 1973

38. Milton Young (R-ND) January, 20 1973-January, 20 1977

39. Frank Church (D-ID) January, 20 1977-January, 20 1981

40. John Ashbrook (R-OH) January, 20 1981-April, 24 1982

41. Bob Dole (R-KS) April, 24 1982-January, 20 1985

42. Gary Hart (D-CO) January, 20 1985-January, 20 1993

43. Jerry Brown (D-CA) January, 20 1993-January, 20 1997

44. Colin Powell (R-NY) January, 20 1997-January, 20 2005

45. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ) January, 20 2005-January, 20 2009

46. Cruz Bustamante (D-CA) January, 20 2009-...

 

VPOTUS list:

36. Richard Nixon (R-CA) January, 20 1953-January, 20 1961

37. Paul Douglas (D-IL) January, 20 1961-January, 1 1963

38. Milton Young (R-ND) January, 20 1965-January, 20 1973

39. Charles Mathias (R-MD) January, 20 1973-January, 20 1977

40. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY) January, 20 1977-January, 20 1981

41. Bob Dole (R-KS) January, 20 1981-April, 24 1982

42. Pierre S. DuPont IV (R-NJ) May, 15 1982-January, 20 1985

43. John Glenn (D-OH) January, 20 1985-January, 20 1993

44. Harvey Gantt (D-NC) January, 20 1993-January, 20 1997

45. Carroll A. Campbell (R-SC) January, 20 1997-January, 20 2005

46. Winthrop Paul Rockefeller (R-AK) January, 20 2005-July, 16 2006

47. George Allen (R-VA) August, 1 2006-January, 20 2009

48. Maria Cantwell (D-WA) January, 20 2009-...

 

Defeated tickets:

1960: VP Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Ambassador Henry C. Lodge (R-MA)

1964: Pres. Paul Douglas (D-IL)/Sen. George Smathers (D-FL)

1968: Sen. John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Sen. John M. Patterson (D-AL)

1972: Sen. Henry Jackson (D-WA)/Fmr. Gov. Richard J. Hughes (D-NJ)

1976: Pres. Milton Young (R-ND)/VP Charles Mathias (R-MD)

1980: Pres. Frank Church (D-ID)/VP Robert Kennedy (D-NY)

1984: Pres. Bob Dole (R-KS)/VP Pierre DuPont (R-NJ)

1988: Sen. James Baker (R-TN)/Rep. Marjorie Holt (R-MD)

1992: Gov. Michael Rockefeller (R-NY)/Rep. Trent Lott (R-MS)

1996: Pres. Jerry Brown (D-CA)/VP Harvey Gantt (D-NC)

2000: Sen. Tom Daschle (D-SD)/Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL)

2004: Fmr. VP Harvey Gantt (D-NC)/Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI)

2008: Pres. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)/VP George Allen (R-VA)
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2010, 09:52:09 PM »

Response to a Historico challenge on the Alternate History Board, where the Rockefellers take the place of the Kennedy dynasty...

Oh hey, it's Masked Pickle! Nice to see you here!

Thanks a lot! I might undertake a new TL soon...
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