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« on: March 12, 2017, 02:25:52 PM »
« edited: March 12, 2017, 02:29:46 PM by Clay »

I think if a thorough investigation is done, then yes there will be outright evidence that Trump's campaign worked with Russia in order to undermine the Clinton campaign.

To any observer who isn't simply a crazed Trump voter, something most definitely happened. There's too much piling up that suggests as much. From so many people on his staff lying about meeting with the Russians, to the link found between Trump and a Russian bank, to Trump's refusal to call Putin anything other than a ruthless dictator who murders his own people.

Something happened. The only question is to the extent it happened.
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2017, 07:35:37 PM »

Putin is as much a ruthless dictator that murders his own people as Obama was. Less, actually.

Clay is deranged, as typical for a Bush-lover who went for HRC.

My guess is that the Russia issue, if it is brought up will, if anything, hurt the Democrats, as it did in 2016, due to all sane people being frightened of fools seeking fame stoking Hitler-style xenophobia. I know for a fact lots of young pro-Bernie people considered HRC toxic for Her saber-rattling at the largest nuclear-armed power in the world.

I'm sorry. You just said that Obama was more of a murderous dictator than Putin is. Anything you said after that cannot be taken seriously.

Honestly how can you defend Putin? The man kills his own citizens and YES he IS a ruthless dictator. Do you really know so little of world affairs that you don't know this?
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2017, 06:04:23 AM »

Putin is as much a ruthless dictator that murders his own people as Obama was. Less, actually.

Clay is deranged, as typical for a Bush-lover who went for HRC.

My guess is that the Russia issue, if it is brought up will, if anything, hurt the Democrats, as it did in 2016, due to all sane people being frightened of fools seeking fame stoking Hitler-style xenophobia. I know for a fact lots of young pro-Bernie people considered HRC toxic for Her saber-rattling at the largest nuclear-armed power in the world.

I'm sorry. You just said that Obama was more of a murderous dictator than Putin is. Anything you said after that cannot be taken seriously.

Honestly how can you defend Putin? The man kills his own citizens and YES he IS a ruthless dictator. Do you really know so little of world affairs that you don't know this?

-No; I know infinitely more than you. Have you seen Putin's approval rating lately?

You know more than our intelligence agencies too, apparently.

Approval ratings? Are you joking? The man already has fake elections where he always wins. But you think his approval ratings are accurate?

However, I am well aware that the dictator's approval among Republicans is quite high. Which is telling.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2017, 09:09:27 AM »

My question for Trump Defenders... Do you not find it odd that Trump has criticised virtually every US & World Leader... But Absolutely refuses to say anything critical of Putin?

(Even if his reasons are not illegal... and something as simple as he doesn't want to alienate the many Russians who invest in Trump Properties)...  Can we at least admit that the total lack of anything critical to this 1 leader is odd?

They can't.

Hell, most of them think Putin is great.

Does anyone else remember when Republicans stood up to tyrants? Now they only look up to them. They used to have some patriots among them.
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2017, 10:29:40 AM »

However, I am well aware that the dictator's approval among Republicans is quite high. Which is telling.

Huh?  AFAIK, Putin's favorability #s among all demographic groups in the US are quite poor.  E.g.:

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2417


I guess I should say his approval is much higher than it should be, and is rising.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/gop-russia-putin-support-232714

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/04/vladimir-putin-polls-better-with-republicans-than-obama-does-thats-not-unprecedented/?utm_term=.3414e4b3c5e8

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/vladimir-putin-popularity-republicans_us_58518a3ce4b092f08686bd6e

http://www.newsweek.com/under-trump-american-approval-putin-grows-559502

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2016/12/14/poll-republican-attitudes-about-wikileaks-putin-have-changed-drastically/
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2017, 02:09:32 PM »

Clay displays his lack of knowledge about the world again. For Putin's victories are no more fake than LBJ's or Eisenhower's.

Clay, have you seen Putin's approval rating in Russia? Why isn't it just as high in the U.S.?

I haven't seen his approval rating in Russia, nor do I care to.  I'll say it again: HE IS A DICTATOR.  If he wants his ratings to be high, they will be.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2017, 03:57:16 PM »

I think it's just nuts to deny the fact that he has had detractors killed.  I cannot wrap my head around this mentality.
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2017, 04:06:54 PM »

I think it's just nuts to deny the fact that he has had detractors killed.  I cannot wrap my head around this mentality.

-Did you Google #ClintonBodyCount? Far more substantiated.

Oh, please.
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