Olmert: Jerusalem must be partitioned

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A good thing he's a former PM.

I hate empty quoting. But this must be seconded.

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Fukk. I just wrote a giant post with my proposed Israel-Palestine boundary and a reply to some of the posters here, particularly Cory, who I think is being outright -- dare I say it? -- anti-Semitic, and Torie, who I usually agree with, who has some more reasonable concerns and with whom I also disagree.

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The State of Israel: Lookin' for a handout.

Seriously, Israel is like that little kid who starts fights knowing his big brother will intervene to save his ass. One of these days Israel will reap what she has sown.

Well, 1) this comment is, I think, very anti-Israeli to the point of being derogatory, and a perversion of the truth -- you're supposing that Israel 'starts wars' (when has Israel been the first one to fire a shot since she preempted Egypt in '67?) and you seem to be blaming the entire Israeli population. Criticizing the Israeli government is one thing, but criticizing the Israeli people, is I think, anti-Semitic, since the sort of person who would self-identify as Israeli is almost certainly Jewish.

Perhaps you didn't intend to, but in my opinion that post crossed the line.

Fukk. I just wrote a giant post with my proposed Israel-Palestine boundary and a reply to some of the posters here, particularly Cory, who I think is being outright -- dare I say it? -- anti-Semitic, and Torie, who I usually agree with, who has some more reasonable concerns and with whom I also disagree.

Again.

Critizing the actions of the Israeli government isn't anti-semitism, just as critizing the actions of US government isn't anti-americanism.

Criticizing the actions of the American government isn't anti-Americanism, but criticizing the actions of the American people, which is also frequently done, is anti-Americanism.

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A "people" is an abstraction, and abstractions don't act.

Oh, yes they do. What is (for example) a lynch mob if not that exact abstraction proving that it is very much a real life phenomenon?

A "people" is an abstraction, and abstractions don't act.

This. By saying "Israel", I was clearly referring to the Israeli governing apparatus. To suggest otherwise is frankly disingenuous.

Alright, I'll accept this. I would like to apologize, Cory; I disagree with your political views, but it was dishonest to call you an anti-Semite, and I would like to take that back.