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« on: December 24, 2014, 02:44:17 PM »

I'm not sure Democrats see that immigration reform is one of those issues where one side (the anti side) is significantly more passionate than the other (the pro side). Obama didn't issue the executive order until after the election to avoid increasing the anti-reform turnout; if he had issued it, Gardner would probably have won by 4-5 points or so.

Unfortunately, the Democratic leadership is smarter than coloradocowboi.
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2014, 12:26:34 PM »

I'm not sure Democrats see that immigration reform is one of those issues where one side (the anti side) is significantly more passionate than the other (the pro side). Obama didn't issue the executive order until after the election to avoid increasing the anti-reform turnout; if he had issued it, Gardner would probably have won by 4-5 points or so.

Unfortunately, the Democratic leadership is smarter than coloradocowboi.

Wow, you're cool for making ad hominem attacks on a nerdy election forum.

Well, being very confident and smug about your viewpoints won't win you too many friends among people who disagree. I should know Tongue

But, no that's simply untrue. Latino turnout was down and "anti-reform" turnout, i.e. racists, did turn out with the rest of the Tea-Party whack jobs for Cory Gardner, which is why the percentage of people in exit polls who said they were anti-reform was higher in 2014 than statewide opinion polls.

You're backing up what I said here, albeit in disapproving language -- the anti-immigration side turned out more, because they are more passionate, which goes to show that issuing an Executive Order on immigration is an electoral loser, which is why it was done as far as possible away from an election (2 years before the next one), as opposed to immediately before an election when it would've cost Democrats.

If Palacio and the CDP are so smart, why did they blow a bunch of easily winnable races this year and lose counties--heavily Latino counties, I might add--that they normally win handily?

Palacio and the CDP might not be, but Obama is (actually, I don't know if he's "so smart", but he's certainly smart enough to figure what the electoral effects of his Executive Order would be).
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