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« on: January 13, 2010, 07:12:01 PM »

The Duke Wins: List of Presidents

40. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
41. Michael S. “Mike” Dukakis (D-MA): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1997
42. James “Jim” Edgar (R-IL): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2005
43. J.C. Watts Jr. (R-OK): January 20th 2005-January 20th 2009**

44. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend (D-MD): January 20th 2009-???**

Notes

41. First Greek-American President
43. First African American President
44. First Female President

The Duke Wins: List of Vice-Presidents

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
43. Lloyd M. Bentsen (D-TX): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
44. William J. “Bill” Clinton (D-AK): January 20th 1993-January 20th 1997

45. J.C. Watts Jr. (R-OK): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2005
46. Peter B. “Pete” Wilson (R-CA): January 20th 2005-January 20th 2009

47. James H. “Jim” Webb Jr. (D-VA): January 20th 2009-???


Yeah!

Now that looks like something I should make a timeline out of. Either that or I could keep going with Carter. What do y'all think?
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2010, 02:17:27 PM »

Thought about doing this as a timeline before doing the Royal America.

RFK Lives; Sirhan Sirhan Kills Nixon

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (1963 - 1969)
37. Hubert H. Humphrey (1969 - 1973)
38. Ronald W. Reagan (1973 - 1981)
39. Robert F. Kennedy (1981)1
40. Milton J. Shapp (1981 - 1985)
41. Jack F. Kemp (1985 - 1993)
42. Zell B. Miller (1993 - 2001)
43. Edward "Ted" Kennedy (2001 - 2005)2
44. William "Bill" Bradley (2005 - 2009)
45. John S. McCain (2009 - present)

1 Killed by John Hinckley.
2 Killed by Vladimir Arutyunian.

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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 07:48:27 AM »

Clay Wins 1844

In spite of Clay's 1844 election promises, the Mexican-American War happens anyway (during Cass's term). In addition to the OTL gains, the U.S. takes the liberty of annexing Baja California (Liberia, too, eventually becomes a state). The abolitionist movement begins in the South ITTL, so there is never a civil war. Instead, there is an Oregon War, which is a smashing U.S. victory and results in the U.S. annexing all of Oregon Territory (but none of Canada). The Whigs and Democrats survive. By the 1950s, the parties have taken the familiar shape the current, ATL U.S. residents know and love: the Democrats as a huge big tent party consisting of the far-right and the far-left. The Whigs are smaller, but more organized (and moderate), and take advantage of the huge splits in the Democrats to win.

11. Henry Clay (Whig-Kentucky, 1845 - 1849)
12. Lewis Cass (Democratic-Michigan, 1849 - 1857)
13. Jefferson Davis (Democratic-Mississippi, 1857 - 1861)
14. Levi Boone (Whig-Illinois, 1861 - 1869)
15. Robert M.T. Hunter (Democratic-Virginia, 1869 - 1873)
16. Henry Allen (Whig-Louisiana, 1873 - 1881)
17. Thomas Cobb (Democratic-Indiana, 1881 - 1889)
18. John Reagan (Whig-Texas, 1889 - 1897)
19. Adlai Stevenson (Democratic-Illinois, 1897 - 1905)
20. Thomas Watson (Democratic-Georgia, 1905 - 1909)
21. Albert Lowell (Whig-Massachusetts, 1909 - 1913)
22. William Hearst (Democratic-California, 1913 - 1917)
23. John Parker (Whig-Louisiana, 1917 - 1921)
24. Sidney Catts (Democratic-Florida, 1921 - 1925)
25. Albert Johnson (Whig-Washington, 1925 - 1933)
26. Huey Long, Jr. (Whig-Louisiana, 1933 - 1935)
27. James Reed (Whig-Missouri, 1935 - 1941)
28. Paul McNutt (Democratic-Indiana, 1941 - 1949)
29. Strom Thurmond (Democratic-South Carolina, 1949 - 1957)
30. Francis Walter (Whig-Pennsylvania, 1957 - 1961)
31. Jacob Javits (Democratic-New York, 1961 - 1965)
32. Cecil Underwood (Whig-Virginia, 1965 - 1969)
33. William Westmoreland (Democratic-South Carolina, 1969 - 1977)
34. William Tolbert, Jr. (Democratic-Liberia, 1977 - 1980)
35. Alan Cranston (Democratic-California, 1980 - 1989)
36. Philip Crane (Whig-Illinois, 1989 - 1993)
37. Pete du Pont IV (Democratic-Delaware, 1993 - 1997)
38. Douglas Wilder (Whig-Virginia, 1997 - 2001)
39. Gary Bauer (Democratic-Kentucky, 2001 - 2005)
40. Steve Forbes (Whig-New York, 2005 - 2009)
41. Hillary Rodham (Democratic-Illinois, 2009 - present)
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2010, 07:51:39 AM »

Ok here is my new list for a possible "The Republic of Texas" Survives to the Present Day TL after im done with my Ronnie in '68 TL. I must admit I was reaching toward the end, cuz I belive butterflies would have radically different political figures who wern't even born IOTL be President.

The Eyes of Texas are upon You…

1. Samuel “Sam” Houston (I-Huntsville): October 22nd 1836-December 10th 1838
2. Mirabeau B. Lamar: (I-Laredo): December 10th 1838- December 13th 1841
3. Samuel “Sam” Houston: (I-Huntsville): December 13th 1841-December 9th 1844

4. Barnard E. Bee Sr.(N-Houston): December 9th 1844-December 9th 1847
5. Mirabeau B. Lamar (N-Laredo) December 9th 1847-December 9th 1850
6. Abner S. Lipscomb (N-Brenham): December 9th 1850-December 9th 1853

7. Thomas J. Rusk (H-Nacogdoches): December 9th 1853-December 9th 1856
8. Hardin R. Richards (N-Bowie County): December 9th 1856-December 9th 1859
9. Elisha M. Pease (H-Lampsas): December 9th 1859-December 9th 1862
10. Louis T. Wigfall (N-Galveston: December 9th 1862-December 9th 1865
11. Elisha M. Pease (H-Lampsas): December 9th 1865-December 9th 1868
12. Andrew J. Hamilton (H-Austin): December 9th 1868-December 9th 1871
13. Edmund J. Davis (H-Austin): December 9th 1871-December 9th 1874

14. Hamilton P. Bee (N-San Antonio): December 9th 1874-December 9th 1877
15. Richard Coke (N-Waco): December 9th 1877-December 9th 1880
16. Richard B. Hubbard Jr. (N-Tyler): December 9th 1880-December 9th 1883
17. Richard Coke (N-Waco): December 9th 1883-December 9th 1886
18. Lawrence S. “Sul” Ross (N-Brazos.): December 9th 1886-December 9th 1889
19. John Ireland (N-Seguin): December 9th 1889-December 9th 1891
20. Lawrence S. “Sul” Ross (N-Brazos): December 9th 1891-December 9th 1894

21. James S. “Big Jim” Hogg (P-Houston): December 9th 1894-December 9th 1897
22. Charles A. Culberson (P-Dallas): December 9th 1897-December 9th 1900

23. Joseph D. Sayers (N-Austin): December 9th 1900-December 9th 1903
24. James S. “Big Jim” Hogg (P-Houston): December 9th 1903-March 3 1906*
25. Roger Q. Mills (P-Corsicana): March 3rd-December 9th 1906
26. Thomas M. Campbell (P-Longview): December 9th 1906-December 9th 1909
27. Andrew J. Houston (P-Independence): December 9th 1909-December 9th 1912

28. Oscar B. Colquitt (N-Daingerfield): December 9th 1912-December 9th 1915
29. John Morris Shepard (N-Texarkana): December 9th 1915-December 9th 1918
30. William P. Hobby (N-Houston): December 9th 1918-December 9th 1921

31. James E. “Pa” Ferguson (P-Salado): December 9th 1921-December 9th 1924
32. Miriam A. “Ma” Ferguson (P-Salado): December 9th 1924-December 9th 1927**
33. James E. “Pa” Ferguson (P-Salado): December 9th 1927-December 9th 1930
34. John N. Garner (P-Uvalde): December 9th 1930-December 9th 1933

35. Sam Rayburn (N-Bonham): December 9th 1933-December 9th 1936
36. James V. Alfred (N-Corpus Christi): December 9th 1936-December 9th 1939
37. Sam Rayburn (N-Bonham): December 9th 1939-December 9th 1941
38. Thomas T. “Tom” Connally (N-Waco): December 9th 1941-December 9th 1944
39. James V. Alfred (N-Corpus Christi): December 9th 1944-December 9th 1947
40. Thomas T. “Tom” Connally (N-Waco): December 9th 1947-December 9th 1950

41. Wilbert L. “Pappy” O’Daniel (P-Dallas): December 9th 1950-December 9th 1953
42. Coke R. Stevenson (P-San Angelo): December 9th 1953-December 9th 1956
43. Allen Shivers (P-Austin): December 9th 1956-December 9th 1959
44. Marion P. Daniel Sr.(P-Liberty): December 9th 1959-December 9th 1962

45. Lyndon B. Johnson (N-Stonewall): December 9th 1962-December 9th 1965
46. Ralph W. Yarborugh (N-Austin): December 9th 1965-December 9th 1968

47. John Tower (P-Houston): December 9th 1968-December 9th 1971
48. John Connally (P-Houston): December 9th 1971-December 9th 1974

49. Lloyd M. Bentsen (N-Houston): December 9th 1974-December 9th 1977
50. Dolph Briscoe (P-Uvalde): December 9th 1977-December 9th 1980
51. Lloyd M. Bentsen: (N-Houston): December 9th 1980-December 9th 1983
52. George T. Leland: (N-Houston): December 9th 1983-December 9th 1986**
53. Eligio de la Garza (N-Mercedes): December 9th 1986-December 9th 1989**
54. Ann Richards (N-Austin): December 9th 1989-December 9th 1992**

55. Robert D. “Bob” Bullock (P-Austin): December 9th 1992-December 9th 1995
56. Ross Perot (I-Texarkana): December 9th 1995-December 9th 1998
57. James R. “Rick” Perry (P-Austin): December 9th 1998-December 9th 2001
58. Ron E. Paul (P-Lake Jackson): December 9th 2001-December 9th 2004
59. James R. “Rick” Perry (P-Austin): December 9th 2004-December 9th 2007

60. Richard S. “Kinky” Friedman (N-Medina) December 9th 2007-???**

Notes.

24. Died in office due to a Railroad accident.
32. First Female President
52. First African-Texan President
53. First Tejano President
54. Second Female President
60. First Jewish-Texan President.

N: Stands for the Nationalist Party, established in 1843 by Lamar, representing the anti-annexation, pro-slavery and pro-expansion political wing. Essentially the same as OTL Democrats, until the Great Depression and Dust Bowl which enabled them to become the big government and was able to pull away significant minority votes. The Nationalists in 2009 are a left to center party where the strong holds are border towns and the big urban areas.

H: Stood for the Houstonian Party, After Henry Clay’s victory in 1844(POD), The Pro Annexation wing that supported the nation’s 1st President eventually coalesced into the namesake party. Essentially the same as OTL 19th Century, the Houstonians wanted friendly relations with Native Americans, Abolitionists and generally Ameriphile. They also kept Texas neutral during the War of Secession, but were unable to win an election against Coke’s new Nationalist Party.

P: Populist Party, after the dissolution of the Houstonian Party in the 1890’s, many of the Pro-Farm faction of the party were caught up in the growing Populist movement in the US. The Party from the 1890’s to arguably the 1960’s, the party was a fiscally conservative, Pro-Farm, Pro Civil Rights for blacks that capitalized on the Progressive era of the early 1900’s. After the New Age policies of the Nation lists under Rayburn, the Populists shifted to the Center to Right Party it is today

Two Term POTROT’s: Sam Houston, Mireabeau Lamar, Elisha M. Pease, Richard Coke, Sul Ross, Big Jim Hogg, Pa Ferguson, Sam Rayburn, John V. Alfred, Tom Connally, and Rick Perry.
Yeah, I would think they would stick to Popular Vote elections, with seperate Congressional County based election's. Btw...Here's my list for the POTUS in the Eye's of Texas are upon you timeline.

Eyes of Texas…USA Presidential List

10. John Tyler (W/I-VA): April 4th 1841-March 4th 1845
11. Henry Clay (W-KY): March 4th 1845-June 29th 1852*
12. Theodore Frelinghuysen (W-NJ): June 29th 1852-March 4th 1853

13. Lewis Cass (D-MI): March 4th 1853-March 4th 1857
14. Millard Fillmore (A-NY): March 4th 1857-March 4th 1861
15. Stephen A. Douglas (D-IL): March 4th 1861-June 3rd 1863*
16. Herschel V. Johnson (D-GA): June 3rd 1863-March 4th 1865
17. Joel Parker (D-NJ): March 4th 1865-March 4th 1869

18. Anthony Kennedy (A-MD): March 4th 1869-March 4th 1876
19. Winfield S. Hancock (D-PA): March 4th 1876-March 4th 1881
20. Nathaniel P. Banks (A-MA): March 4th 1881-September 1st 1884*
21. Alfred M. Waddell (A-NC): September 1st 1884-March 4th 1893

22. James B. Weaver (P-IA): March 4th 1893-March 4th 1901
23. Thomas B. Reed (A-ME): March 4th 1901-December 7th 1902*
24. Henry Waterson (A-KY): December 7th 1902-March 4th 1909
25. Theodore Roosevelt (A-NY): March 5th 1909-March 4th 1917

26. William J. Bryan (P-NE): March 4th 1917-July 26th 1925*
27. Burton K. Wheeler (P-MA): July 26th 1925-March 4th 1933

28. John W. Davis (A-WV): March 4th 1933-March 4th 1941
29. Charles L. McNary (A-OR): March 4th 1941-Febuary 25th 1944*
30. Herbert H. Lehman (A-NY): February 25th 1944-March 4th 1953

31. Millard E. Tidings (P-MD): March 4th 1953-March 4th 1961
32. Frank Carlson (P-KS): March 4th 1961-October 31st 1962*
33. John F. Kennedy (P-MA): October 31st 1962-March 4th 1965

34. Daniel Brewster (A-MD): March 4th 1965-June 6th 1968**
35. Hubert H. Humphrey (A-MN) June 6th 1968-January 13th 1978*
36. Daniel “Chappie James Jr. (A-FL): January 13th 1978-March 4th 1981***

37.  Edmund G. “Jerry” Brown Jr. (P-CA): March 4th 1981-January 28th 1986*
38. Jesse A. Helms Jr. (P-NC): January 28th 1986-March 4th 1993

39. Elizabeth Holtzman (A-NY): March 4th 1993-March 4th 2001***
40. Winthrop P. Rockefeller (P-AK): March 4th 2001-July 16th 2006*
41. Charles T. “Chuck” Hagel (P-NE): July 16th 2006-March 4th 2009

42. Eric K. Shinseki (A-H): March 4th 2009-???***

Notes.

11. Died in Office.
15. Died in Office due to Typhoid fever.
20. Assassinated by Charles J. Gueiteau.
23. Died in Office due to a massive heart attack.
26. Assassinated by a group of Puerto Rican Nationalists.
29. Died in Office due to complications of a failed Brain Tumor removal surgery.
32. Assassinated by a disgruntled postal worker
34. First President to resign the Office due to Bribery charges
35. First President to win a Third Term, later Died in Office due to bladder cancer
36. First African American President.
37. Assassinated by a crazed Nuclear Freeze advocate.
39. First Jewish and First Female President.
40. Died in office due to leukemia
42. First Japanese American President.

W: OTL Whig Party
D: OTL Democrats
A: American Party intially started as a front for Nativist, Former Whigs, now a Left to Center Party essentially the same as IOTL Democrats.
P: Populist Party, founded in the 1890s which initial support among Agricultural communities, now a Right to Center party essentially the same as OTL Republican Party.




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