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« on: May 03, 2024, 11:39:55 AM »
« edited: May 03, 2024, 01:16:53 PM by YE »

His views are basically Vosem's but with a more aggressive personality. Would you consider Vosem to be evil or a bigot

Am I allowed to answer this question in the affirmative without being sanctioned for a personal attack?

It's not like Vosem himself would even disagree. He responded to someone accusing him of advocating for Gaza to be bombed to smithereens by saying "yes, but technically...."

Hilarious that OSR has now been fighting about this for 20+ comments in here. Fighting for someone who privately probably thinks his family shouldn't have been allowed to come to this country.

Wait, what was the 'technically'? I've repeatedly said that Post removed by moderator.
I don’t care how “polite” or articulate you are, holding certain beliefs makes you an evil person. Haley/Ryan is a shining example of that.

The nicest thing I can say about him is that he’s young enough to change as a person. IIRC he isn’t even 19 yet. Lots of people fall into extremism when they’re young, but become better when they get older. I hope he can change.

His views are basically Vosem's but with a more aggressive personality. Would you consider Vosem to be evil or a bigot

Vosem literally denied the Nakba. I don't dislike him personally, but it shouldn't be confusing why others take issue with him.

I've never denied that there was an exodus from Palestine in 1948? I think blaming the Zionist government for it is ridiculous (for the same reasons that I think it's silly to blame the Indian government for the flight of the Muhajirs in 1947, or to blame the RPF for Hutus fleeing in 1994-5 -- or, for an example closer to my heart, to blame the RSFSR for White emigration), but I'm not sure we've disagreed on any particular facts. The disagreement is about what sorts of actions are blameworthy or praiseworthy, and in what contexts.
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