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Wakie
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« on: August 22, 2005, 10:57:02 AM »

The Exit Plan's been well defined.

1) Remove Saddam - Done

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You're kidding me, right?  My gf's brother is over there for the third time.  He said it was the most secure AFTER the fall of Baghdad and that it has gotten progressively worse.

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Yes and no.  We've done this in name and image, but not in true authority.  Really ... who do you think is calling the shots in Iraq?

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You're kidding me, right?  Almost Done??  Until last week they couldn't even agree on what to CALL the country!

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Wasn't this #4?  Or are you talking about a 2nd round of post Constituiton elections?  If that is the case they you can't say this is planned as the format and timeline isn't in place UNTIL the Constituition is in place.

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This is not a "well defined" goal.  If I go for a run am I "worn down" after 2 miles?  3 miles?  6 feet?  20 miles?

The problem here is that the "insurgency" are fueled by 2 sources.

Source #1 is the Iranian government, and frankly what they want is a friendly Islamic ally on its Western border.  The last thing they want a US-supported ally in a country they fought a brutal and bloody war with 20 years ago.  They're going to do whatever they can to prevent it.

Source #2 is a group of nut cases who believe they are doing the "will of God".  They aren't afraid to die.  They aren't afraid of their family members or comrades dying.  Frankly, they aren't going away very quickly.

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Yes and no.  It was a major F up by this administration when they disolved the Iraqi military.

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Obviously a last step of any military withdrawal.


The major problem with any "exit" from Iraq is that it requires the Iraqi's to have (A) a functional government and (B) the military capability to handle the insurgency on their own.  How long does America want to wait for the Iraqi's to put their crap together?
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Wakie
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2005, 03:36:51 PM »

love how my topic gets diverted to something else[/sarcasm]

My point is, for those partisan hacks: If George Bush tomorrow, did a complete 180 on most everything, removed our troops from Iraq and apologized, repealed the Patriot Act, put funding into stem cell research, became pro-choice, started 35 different social programs to help the poor, college students, the elderly and city dwellers, turned the pork barrel funding to help the 'blue states', tried firing Cheney and replacing him with Russ Feingold, confiscated our guns, raised taxes on the rich, paid off the deficit with it, and tried to start a national health care system, while backing off the the Social Security issue....  Why would you still hate him?  (I know this would never happen)  But my point is, why are the attacks on him personal?  Even if he could change, you'd still hate him and not his policies.  Why?

Can we change the name from George Bush to Bill Clinton and ask the same question?  Or better yet, can we ask why the GOP hates Hillary so much?
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