2024 Third Party and Independent Candidate General discussion

[Yelnoc]

Does RFK JR have ballot access anywhere yet? I know he's raised a lot for an independent candidate, but it's pretty late in the game, especially given how high the ballot access hurdle is in so many states.

[Yelnoc]

West threatens to peel off Arab American voters in Michigan

The independent candidate campaigned in Michigan this week to offer Arab American voters angry over the Israel-Hamas conflict a new political home in 2024. In Dearborn, a majority Arab American suburb of Detroit, West hosted several roundtable meetings with donors, local political organizers and Muslim community leaders, who wanted to hear West’s positions on Gaza

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/22/cornel-west-arab-american-vote-00133137

I'm asking how many voters Cornell West will receive in November 2024 ?

Depends on where he manages to get on the ballot. His campaign does not appear to be taking ballot access particularly seriously, as far as I can tell.

[Yelnoc]

https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/1739596836560683171

No one but the media and some Bernouts care about Cornel West. He’ll be as impactful as Jesse Ventura.

I think a lot of people haven't quite realized that given that West is way more telegenic, famous at least within a certain sphere, and better at giving a good quote than Jill Stein. That said, you're absolutely right that Cornel West is running a Potemkin campaign and won't be on the ballot basically anywhere while Jill Stein will be on the ballot in many relevant states.

Shorter answer: Arab-Americans in Michigan upset with Biden won't be threatening to vote for West, they'll be threatening to vote for Stein or RFK Jr. (Honestly starting to revise my early skepticism of RFK as he's proven to be more serious about this than he originally did and think he might be a way bigger factor than I initially thought)

West will ultimately be out of the race entirely, because I don't think supporters will fund a campaign that isn't even trying to gain ballot access. Cornell West is basically Roseanne Barr 2.0 at this point.

I still don't understand why he didn't just stay with the Greens?

He basically complained about having to go through the primary process, since the Greens weren't just planning on coronating him.

Hilarious and embarrassing. Stein had endorsed him. Now, he needs to drop out and endorse Stein.

[Yelnoc]

Dems are obsessed with stopping 3rd parties which is why less people buy their "democracy" stuff. I've never seen any other political party feel entitled to people's votes.

Nader is a convenient scapegoat in 2000 rather than everyone else who is actually at fault for Gore's (not-)loss.

Al Gore had 5 other chances to win besides Florida. He could have won NH, MO, NV, OH, and his home state of Tennessee. The fact that he couldn't carry any of these plus having places like Oregon closer than 0.5% shows that his campaign did not deserve to win.

In what way could the fact Gore won by just one state justify having that one state's electoral votes stolen from him?

[Yelnoc]

Oooh, I love a new Theory. Is sunlight supposed to be good or bad??