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Iannis
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« on: December 21, 2015, 09:27:46 AM »

They made the mistake of putting together gay marriages and child adoptions. Many many people, not necessarily catholic, are strongly against the latter. And this is the result.
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2015, 12:28:11 PM »

They made the mistake of putting together gay marriages and child adoptions. Many many people, not necessarily catholic, are strongly against the latter. And this is the result.

I know it's generally accepted that gay adoptions is a more liberal position than gay marriage but honestly that doesn't really make sense. If you oppose gay marriage, you might just be doing it for blind religious reasons and not have any especially negative feelings for gay people. If you oppose adoption, it's because you think all gay people are necessarily pedophiles.

Please.... many people just think that a minor should grow, if possible, with a mother and a father of opposit sex, period.
Indeed in Italy the law proposed by the majority in the PArliament is about civil contracts only between gay and only with stepchild adoption, wich, by the way, is likely to be sacked, leaving just the gay civil partnership.
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2015, 04:54:20 AM »

A little bit offtopic, but I've always thought it interesting that in gay adoption in Europe seems to be so controversial considering that it's basically always been the opposite in the US. Why is that so?

You mean that in USA the issue is about gay marriages and there is no objection to gay adoption? Ot that there is no relevant difference between % in favour of gay marriages and gay adoption?
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2015, 08:43:03 AM »

A little bit offtopic, but I've always thought it interesting that in gay adoption in Europe seems to be so controversial considering that it's basically always been the opposite in the US. Why is that so?

You mean that in USA the issue is about gay marriages and there is no objection to gay adoption? Ot that there is no relevant difference between % in favour of gay marriages and gay adoption?

In North America, gay adoption was usually 20% more popular than gay marriage. I seen no number since the huge change in SSM fortunes in USA, though.

Gay adoption is not considered as a controversial subject by most people (There has been an huge debate in some states whether private adoption providers (usually churches) could decide to exclude gays from being potential parents).

Really? In Italy about 50-60% of people are in favour of gay civil union, but only 30% are for gay adoption.
Regardless my personal opinion on these matters, I find more reasonable to have doubts when there is the involvement of third person rather than when it's just a matter of personal choices between two adult persons.
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