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Del Tachi
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« on: May 02, 2024, 11:05:29 AM »

Is there any scientific evidence that suggests lab grown meat is unsafe for consumption, or is this just more culture war posturing from DeSantis?

Even if there is, remember how Republicans acted when NYC banned large cups for sodas? All the "muh freedom" and all that? In my state, we made it illegal for any city or county to enact such a ban because people should have the freedom to use as large of a cup as they want for Coke or sweet tea. So for Republicans to turn around and banning artificial meat over "health concerns" would be pretty rich.

What I don't get is how this is a "culture war" thing in the first place. Lab-grown meat isn't very common among people in any political persuasion, and the only way it ever will be is if they get to the point where it's cheaper than real meat and takes identical or close to it. If that happens, people of all politics will decide to save the money and eat it.

This is much more parochial than you think. In restricting both lab-grown meat and bans on big gulps, Republicans are just trying to protect industries where they traditionally have a constituency.

This is a "culture war" issue because most people have an "ick" factor when it comes to lab-grown meats.  Only 18% of Americans say they are likely to try it. Degradation in the quality of goods has been an observed feature of post-industrial society, and Americans are right to not want that to affect their food.   
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Del Tachi
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2024, 11:08:52 AM »

This is overreach and should be struck down. Even products that present real health risks (cigarettes, alcohol) cannot be banned so it's hard to see how lab grown meat being banned stands up.

Yeh, came here to say I don't see how this survives a court challenge.

What's the legal basis for the law? Virtue Signaling To Your Base is not a reason any rational jurist is going to accept for outlawing some private company growing meat in a lab and selling it to private citizens on the free market.

What's there to challenge? Conservative judges believe that (red) states have the right to ban any and all behavior that conservatives don't like.

The sudden realization by liberals that government is not allowed to regulate food of all things appears quite ridiculous, LOL
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2024, 01:57:13 PM »

This is overreach and should be struck down. Even products that present real health risks (cigarettes, alcohol) cannot be banned so it's hard to see how lab grown meat being banned stands up.

Yeh, came here to say I don't see how this survives a court challenge.

What's the legal basis for the law? Virtue Signaling To Your Base is not a reason any rational jurist is going to accept for outlawing some private company growing meat in a lab and selling it to private citizens on the free market.

What's there to challenge? Conservative judges believe that (red) states have the right to ban any and all behavior that conservatives don't like.

The sudden realization by liberals that government is not allowed to regulate food of all things appears quite ridiculous, LOL

But there’s no rational explanation for this specific regulation. “Some people don’t like it and think it’s icky” is not a good reason to ban it.

There is no rational reason for very many regulations, especially in the agriculture sector.  This rule is more about protecting Florida's poultry and seafood industries than anything else.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2024, 02:32:40 PM »

This is overreach and should be struck down. Even products that present real health risks (cigarettes, alcohol) cannot be banned so it's hard to see how lab grown meat being banned stands up.

Yeh, came here to say I don't see how this survives a court challenge.

What's the legal basis for the law? Virtue Signaling To Your Base is not a reason any rational jurist is going to accept for outlawing some private company growing meat in a lab and selling it to private citizens on the free market.

What's there to challenge? Conservative judges believe that (red) states have the right to ban any and all behavior that conservatives don't like.

The sudden realization by liberals that government is not allowed to regulate food of all things appears quite ridiculous, LOL

But there’s no rational explanation for this specific regulation. “Some people don’t like it and think it’s icky” is not a good reason to ban it.

There is no rational reason for very many regulations, especially in the agriculture sector.  This rule is more about protecting Florida's poultry and seafood industries than anything else.

So why haven't they banned meat from other states?


Because it's unconstitutional for States to levy taxes or duties on imports or exports from other States.  But it's perfectly legal for States to regulate how food is grown/sold within their borders, except when Congress has explicitly pre-empted it by using their commerce clause authority. California just recently banned certain artificial food colorings and additives, despite no scientific evidence they are dangerous to human health, for example.

Bans on lab-grown meat are to protect traditional livestock producers from unfair competition. Producers of "frankenmeat" do not exist under the same regulatory burdens as traditional farmers, which gives them an unfair advantage.  States (not just FL, but also AZ and AR) are are moving to ban artificial meat after the USDA recently approved the first two companies to sell "cell-cultivated" chicken to U.S. consumers.  Shrinking the market for these foods is a preemptive strategy to protect jobs in the farming industry.
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