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« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2012, 08:28:00 PM »

My impressions: Redford sounds "smarter", but Smith sounds more personable. Brian Mason sounds solid, but the Raj guy sounds completely out of his depth.

He talked about tax increases for 45 minutes, but since he's hit his polling floor it probably won't do much damage.
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« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2012, 08:47:53 PM »

I like Mason as well. The one who I really can't stand is Sherman... ugh. Redford's just a weasel who does a bad job of it.
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« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2012, 08:49:41 PM »

Danielle Smith's certainly got that creepy Sarah Palin thing about her.

I'd hate to be an Albertan.

Maybe because her voice sounds a bit like Fey's Palin impersonation...
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« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2012, 08:52:59 PM »

Will this debate change the polls? No. Otherwise I think we can all agree that Sherman had the worst performance.
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« Reply #54 on: April 12, 2012, 09:04:48 PM »

Redford needed a knockout blow- something to fix her credibility gap or Palinize Smith. She didn't get it.
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« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2012, 06:25:55 PM »

Probably. I mean, he talked about tax increases (not quite so suicidal as to be specific) for 45 minutes nonstop and the debate analyses hardly mention that. Yeesh.
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« Reply #56 on: April 14, 2012, 01:28:48 PM »

A new Abacus poll:

WRP: 46 (+3)
PC: 29 (-1)
NDP: 12 (+1)
Lib: 10 (-2)

The poll also confirms that Liberal voters are heading to the Tories. 28% of '08 Liberals are now backing the Tories compared to a 40% retention and just 18% who are switching to the WRP. NDP voters aren't switching to the Tories though, only 12% are switching to them compared to 14% to the WRP (57% retention).

Could the Liberals be shut out? Also, does it mean anything seat-wise if the PCs drop below 30 and/or WRP hits 50?
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« Reply #57 on: April 14, 2012, 01:32:14 PM »

Good profile from the G&M.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/danielle-smith-is-she-albertas-sarah-palin-or-the-future-of-canada/article2402264/singlepage/#articlecontent

Lougheed & Getty endorse Redford.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Wildrose%2Bvictory%2Bwould%2Bgood%2BAlberta%2BCanada/6458494/story.html
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« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2012, 07:33:29 PM »

Den Tandt: No one should be surprised.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/04/15/michael-den-tandt-a-wildrose-victory-in-alberta-would-hardly-be-surprising/
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« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2012, 07:48:43 PM »

They had one strategy with two parts: 1) Palinize Smith 2) Build flaming social-issues strawmen, mostly on abortion and gay marriage. Both failed. Barring any major reversal, they're headed for a "five-spiral crash", to quote GWB in another context.
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« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2012, 08:55:48 PM »

Hatman, when's your final projection going up?
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« Reply #61 on: April 16, 2012, 07:42:53 PM »


Smiley
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« Reply #62 on: April 17, 2012, 02:05:58 PM »

What's going on? Is it that homophobe's blog comments, stat noise? :puzzled:
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« Reply #63 on: April 17, 2012, 07:02:12 PM »

Leaders losing control?

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/politics/Exhausted+parties+losing+control+says+political+analyst+week+before/6469227/story.html

Shocker.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Wildrose%20Party,%20Danielle%20Smith,%20favoured%20by%20Tory%20MPs,%20says%20Rob%20Anders/6467641/story.html

Not so shocking.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Alison+Redford+condemns+Wildrose+party+having+small+Alberta+vision/6473474/story.html

Assholes. Leave Klein alone.

http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2012/04/15/kleins-wife-friends-angry-at-pc-criticism-of-sick-ex-premier/
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« Reply #64 on: April 18, 2012, 11:08:10 AM »

I'm getting flashbacks to 8 years ago.
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« Reply #65 on: April 19, 2012, 02:10:13 PM »

Has anyone here heard of Janet Brown before? Her name rings a very vague bell to me. Predicting a WRP seat count in the 50s based on that Leger poll.

http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/Wildrose%2Bprojected%2Bseats/6482255/story.html
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« Reply #66 on: April 23, 2012, 04:39:16 PM »

When will results start coming in?

10 PM Eastern.
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« Reply #67 on: April 23, 2012, 07:16:00 PM »

It won't have an effect on federal politics, though it will on federal policy. Smith wants the oil to go east.
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« Reply #68 on: April 23, 2012, 07:52:17 PM »

The last time a dynasty was toppled... Ontario PC, 1985.
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« Reply #69 on: April 23, 2012, 09:22:25 PM »

7-3 PC. What's going on?
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« Reply #70 on: April 23, 2012, 09:36:53 PM »

What's happening? No recent poll predicted this.
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« Reply #71 on: April 23, 2012, 09:40:45 PM »

But what's happening? How can all the polls be wrong?
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« Reply #72 on: April 23, 2012, 09:41:47 PM »

Even the NDP surge was picked up last year.
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« Reply #73 on: April 23, 2012, 09:50:44 PM »

So basically 2004 federal election all over again, but the polls didn't catch it?
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« Reply #74 on: April 23, 2012, 10:09:26 PM »

Can anyone else remember such a shocking result?
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