House Majority Whip Spoke at White Supremacists Conference

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Guilt by association sucks. It's also very selective.  Knowing the spineless nature of Republicans,Scalise will get the Lott treatment.

Meanwhile, Democrats will schedule speeches at La Raza, kiss Sharpton's ring, and elect Presidents who attended Jeremiah Wright's church -- without media attention.

Why Republicans will never win Latino or Black voters: they make false equivalencies between white supremacy and Black churches or progressive Black politicians.

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I detest Mia Love because she gives credence to the notion that racism isn't a serious problem in America. As a Latino, I take issue with fellow racial minorities who have benefited from negative discrimination but speak out against it for the sake of their own personal promotion

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I detest Mia Love because she gives credence to the notion that racism isn't a serious problem in America. As a Latino, I take issue with fellow racial minorities who have benefited from negative discrimination but speak out against it for the sake of their own personal promotion

Darn black people being successful on their own merits, always threatening to spoil affirmative action for whites.

I'm Mexican-American and I've been successful on my own merits. I don't need affirmative action but I  think it's a worthwhile policy. Am I the most deserving? No but I have many friends who come from impoverished backgrounds + are Black or Mexican/Mexican-American and have "stats" that are lower than average at their school. They're excellent students but they had less opportunities than many white students with wealthy parents, who went to private college prep schools, and this is partially due to the lasting legacy of racism in the US. I can't say that I approve of politicians who'd

Anyways, your post is a vile strawman: I am speaking for myself as a non-white person and I've always been proud of my own academic achievements. Nevertheless, I acknowledge the necessity of affirmative action. It's an important policy. Did Mia Love benefit from affirmative action? I'm not entirely sure but it's quite likely that she did and it's unfair that she'd reap the rewards of affirmative action and then advocate for its erasure. I hold the same opinion of the nouve riche from working class backgrounds who have attained their status partially due to the success of social programs but then advocate that they be discontinued for their personal gain.

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I detest Mia Love because she gives credence to the notion that racism isn't a serious problem in America. As a Latino, I take issue with fellow racial minorities who have benefited from negative discrimination but speak out against it for the sake of their own personal promotion

Darn black people being successful on their own merits, always threatening to spoil affirmative action for whites.

I'm Mexican-American and I've been successful on my own merits. I don't need affirmative action but I  think it's a worthwhile policy. Am I the most deserving? No but I have many friends who come from impoverished backgrounds + are Black or Mexican/Mexican-American and have "stats" that are lower than average at their school. They're excellent students but they had less opportunities than many white students with wealthy parents, who went to private college prep schools, and this is partially due to the lasting legacy of racism in the US. I can't say that I approve of politicians who'd

Anyways, your post is a vile strawman: I am speaking for myself as a non-white person and I've always been proud of my own academic achievements. Nevertheless, I acknowledge the necessity of affirmative action. It's an important policy.

If you are a fellow racial minority with Mia Love, on what basis do you say you have been successful on your own merits but she hasn't been?  And how is it that she is the one who's position is judged as being out of seeking personal promotion?

Dd I say that she hasn't been successful on her own merits? She quite clearly has been successful on her own merits. She's clearly intelligent and politically savvy. Mia Love is a politician in the Republican Party: being against affirmative action is advantageous for her political standing. It affirms that she's conservative and not "a mooch", of course.

I'm done responding to your posts.

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I detest Mia Love because she gives credence to the notion that racism isn't a serious problem in America. As a Latino, I take issue with fellow racial minorities who have benefited from negative discrimination but speak out against it for the sake of their own personal promotion

Darn black people being successful on their own merits, always threatening to spoil affirmative action for whites.

I'm Mexican-American and I've been successful on my own merits. I don't need affirmative action but I  think it's a worthwhile policy. Am I the most deserving? No but I have many friends who come from impoverished backgrounds + are Black or Mexican/Mexican-American and have "stats" that are lower than average at their school. They're excellent students but they had less opportunities than many white students with wealthy parents, who went to private college prep schools, and this is partially due to the lasting legacy of racism in the US. I can't say that I approve of politicians who'd

Anyways, your post is a vile strawman: I am speaking for myself as a non-white person and I've always been proud of my own academic achievements. Nevertheless, I acknowledge the necessity of affirmative action. It's an important policy.

If you are a fellow racial minority with Mia Love, on what basis do you say you have been successful on your own merits but she hasn't been?  And how is it that she is the one who's position is judged as being out of seeking personal promotion?

Dd I say that she hasn't been successful on her own merits? She quite clearly has been successful on her own merits. She's clearly intelligent and politically savvy. Mia Love is a politician in the Republican Party: being against affirmative action is advantageous for her political standing. It affirms that she's conservative and not "a mooch", of course.

I'm done responding to your posts.

You said that she owes it to white Mexicans to agree with your position because she has benefited from discrimination. That's hard to square with doing it on her own merits.  Do you ever consider that maybe constantly having her accomplishments denigrated to being due to racial preferences is as much the reason for her position as anything?  The fact is she has no more duty to support affirmative action than I or anyone else does. If she doesn't believe it's a good policy, her race shouldn't prohibit her from holding that view.

I did not say that "she owes it to white Mexicans", what is this sh[inks]? I originally said that "as a Latino, I take issue with fellow minorities who have benefited from negative discrimination". That is to say, that this is my opinion, which is probably colored by my Latino perspective on issues of race and ethnicity. For what it's worth, this isn't about me. It's about my friends, who deserve better. I think all of them are successful on their own merits. I think Mia Love is successful on her own merits. I also happen to believe that affirmative action forces the impersonal bureaucratic establishment of universities recognize these merits.

I've never met an African-American or a Latino who is opposed to affirmative action. I know they exist and have their own reasons to be opposed to affirmative action but I'm of the opinion that no belief exists in a vaccuum: ideology, policy positions and the like are driven by personal experience. The personal experience of being discriminated against on the basis of race tends to convince people of the importance of affirmative action. In my case, it certainly has.

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Final addendum: I made my original post largely because I wanted to represent the non-white left that feels uncomfortable about the "post-racism" rhetoric of Mia Love, seeing as there is no non-white left on this forum besides me (as far as I know). I respect Simfan's point of view, of course. I don't think Mia Love is a racetraitor or an Uncle Tom. I think that's, as Mikado put it, paternalistic.