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DrScholl
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« on: February 13, 2011, 01:52:39 PM »

The problem is, he's not even within striking distance in the polling of New Jersey, so that doesn't say a whole lot about crossover appeal. A sitting governor who can't pull at least an even number in his own state is going to have problems elsewhere.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2011, 02:10:40 PM »

In a swing state, sure that would make sense. But Obama won NJ by 15 points last time.

But if Christie can't even pull even in his own state, where is his viability? The whole point of him being mentioned as a contender is because he was elected Governor in a blue state, but if that's not translating into good presidential poll numbers, then he's got no viability.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2011, 02:17:45 PM »


In states like Ohio, Florida, Indiana, etc. where Republicans HAVE to win to win the presidency. NJ would just be icing on the cake.

I'm not making the point that Republicans need New Jersey to win, I am making the point that Christie's crossover appeal isn't that big in his own state and it's not a good sign that he can have that appeal elsewhere.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2011, 02:28:29 PM »

Al Gore didn't resonate enough in his home state of Tennessee so, naturally, there was no way he was going to win the popular vote in 2000.

Al Gore wasn't a sitting statewide official in Tennessee at the time of the election and hadn't been for years. I don't think a sitting Governor or Senator who could even possibly lose their own home state is all that viable.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2011, 02:33:28 PM »
« Edited: February 13, 2011, 03:00:56 PM by Estes Kefauver »


He has a 23% approval rating among Democrats. That's not crossover appeal? If you think he's going to get Scott Brown levels of Democratic support in an election, that's just not going to happen. If he can get 10-15% he'd be fine.

Approval is one thing, actual crossover votes is another thing, not everyone that approves of a Governor will vote for them.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2011, 08:51:37 PM »

What does that matter? He was a Senator and a Congressman from said state for awhile and helped Clinton carry it in 1992 and 1996.

It matters a lot, when Gore lost, he hadn't represented Tennessee for awhile, it was a lot different losing your own home state when you aren't a top statewide official.

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You really ought to cease with the name calling, it doesn't help your argument. That said, one of the reasons Christie is even talked up is because he won the Governor's seat in a blue state. Rather the state is necessary for a win isn't my point, it's about crossover appeal. As a sitting Governor, one would have to show a few points of crossover appeal in their own home state in order to crossover in a Presidential election.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2011, 09:14:10 PM »



Wrong. Totally wrong.

One of the reasons why Christie is talked up is because he's a conservative Governor in a liberal state. That isn't his only strong point with Republicans.

Also, I still don't understand why lacking crossover appeal in a state that is pretty solid for the opposition in a Presidential election year means someone cannot have crossover appeal elsewhere. I think you know it is a foolish point, too. It's just so obvious.

If crossover appeal wasn't some of the reasoning behind Republicans talking him up, then why is that his being a conservative Governor in a liberal state even a strong point for him? You are contradicting yourself and don't even realize it.

Here it is in plain terms. There is nothing to support that Christie being a "conservative Governor in a liberal state" is really anything substantial in terms of Presidential viability. You can call all the names you want, it doesn't change that fact.
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