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« Reply #75 on: June 18, 2017, 03:31:43 PM »

How is Ossoff an awful candidate? Whether you like his political positions or not, it's hard to claim that he's an awful candidate. This is the same sort of both sides garbage that needs to end in politics. Handel is the only horrible candidate in the race.
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« Reply #76 on: June 18, 2017, 04:40:33 PM »

Ossoff has ran a great campaign and was a very good candidate. Regardless of how this race turns out or your political views you have to admit that.

No, he's a prop-up if he loses. A prop-up who ate money that could've gone to TWO districts that were competitive, one of which had a +20 edge against and moved left by 14!

A handsome looking one, but still a prop-up.

KS-4 and MT-AL probably weren't going to flip with extra money.
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« Reply #77 on: June 18, 2017, 05:37:32 PM »
« Edited: June 18, 2017, 05:49:25 PM by Virginia »


Clearly the lesson would be to spend $25 million to elect drab establishment candidates in each of the districts that Hillary lost by a point so that the Democrats have a bigger minority in the House.

You are on the same list that krazen is.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #78 on: June 18, 2017, 05:42:02 PM »

Ossoff has ran a great campaign and was a very good candidate. Regardless of how this race turns out or your political views you have to admit that.

No, he's a prop-up if he loses. A prop-up who ate money that could've gone to TWO districts that were competitive, one of which had a +20 edge against and moved left by 14!

A handsome looking one, but still a prop-up.

KS-4 and MT-AL probably weren't going to flip with extra money.

Could've been closer. And made for a broader appeal. Better three  very close districts as a warning sign and then going all out the next year on making the point, then two Sestak'd and one still lost by a razor-thin margin and thereby giving the party an appearance of being seriously split.

Could have been closer is not the same thing as actually winning. Putting money into seats that actually trended further to the right just to prove a point is not a sound investment.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #79 on: June 18, 2017, 05:44:40 PM »


Clearly the lesson would be to spend $25 million to elect drab establishment candidates in each of the districts that Hillary lost by a point so that the Democrats have a bigger minority in the House.

You are on the same list that krazen is. Shut up, jfern.

Hey, how'd telling progressives to shut up work out for your candidate Hillary last year?

The moderator warned once not to derail this thread with talk about the primary. Follow the rules.
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« Reply #80 on: June 18, 2017, 05:50:11 PM »

I can't help but be annoyed at the hypocrisy of Jfern an other hard leftist on this topic. On the one hand they constantly rip on "the establishment" for "talking about Russia and not healthcare" yet Quist brought up Russia all the time in Montana while Ossoff is the one who doesn't bring up Russia and talks about healthcare

Because jfern is a Republican concern troll

I've never voted Republican.

You certainly do use right-wing rhetoric, though

But of course no one can be racist against whites because reasons.
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« Reply #81 on: June 18, 2017, 05:52:16 PM »

I hate to take jfern' side on this one, but it's true that getting only rich suburban districts that swung heavily for Hillary wouldn't get the Democrats a majority even if Ossoff won, which he hasn't.

You play where you have the best chance to win.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #82 on: June 18, 2017, 06:29:14 PM »

Ossoff has ran a great campaign and was a very good candidate. Regardless of how this race turns out or your political views you have to admit that.


No, he's a prop-up if he loses. A prop-up who ate money that could've gone to TWO districts that were competitive, one of which had a +20 edge against and moved left by 14!

A handsome looking one, but still a prop-up.

KS-4 and MT-AL probably weren't going to flip with extra money.

Could've been closer. And made for a broader appeal. Better three  very close districts as a warning sign and then going all out the next year on making the point, then two Sestak'd and one still lost by a razor-thin margin and thereby giving the party an appearance of being seriously split.

Could have been closer is not the same thing as actually winning. Putting money into seats that actually trended further to the right just to prove a point is not a sound investment.

I do wish the GOP had this attitude in '09/'10, there'd be no Scott Brown to stop the Public Option, and there wouldn't have been that YUGE 63 seat flip.

Scott Brown was an anomaly. And probably half of that 63 House seat gain was due to Republicans picking up heavily conservative seats that Democrats really had no business still holding.
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« Reply #83 on: June 18, 2017, 06:53:13 PM »

Who is CSP Polling? It seems to have just started out last month. Seems like a fake poll.
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« Reply #84 on: June 18, 2017, 06:57:16 PM »

Did a Twitter search and it seems as if CSP Polling is an outfit that uses Google Consumer Surveys for their polling.
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« Reply #85 on: June 18, 2017, 07:38:17 PM »

Though Nate Cohn has been sending cryptic tweets that Handel will win

Example please?  The tweets I've seen seem to indicate he's really on the fence in this one.

He's saying that Handel will do better in the early vote this time around, even if Ossoff wins.
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« Reply #86 on: June 19, 2017, 04:02:54 PM »

It looks like the Scalise shooting will tip it to Handel. I'm revising my prediction from 50-50 to
51.5% Handel
48.5% Ossoff

Landmark polled after the shooting and found no change.
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« Reply #87 on: June 19, 2017, 04:10:53 PM »

It looks like the Scalise shooting will tip it to Handel. I'm revising my prediction from 50-50 to
51.5% Handel
48.5% Ossoff

Landmark polled after the shooting and found no change.

But Ppolls has her in the lead, Trafalgar has her rising from behind to the lead, and another poll had her gaining. That's three polls that have her either gaining or in the lead.

CSPPolls is fake and Trafalgar is a Republican poll. No independent poll has had her in the lead for over a month.
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« Reply #88 on: June 19, 2017, 04:35:27 PM »

It's interesting that blue avatars start posting in this thread once one (only one poll) shows Handel in the lead and a right at 50% (very convenient).
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