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« on: October 24, 2016, 01:01:07 PM »

I love the circular logic Clinton supporters use to justify whether something matters or not. As if the media outlets that have been shown to be actively running stories past her campaign before publishing them are going to cover something that suggests she is complicit in inciting violence at Trump rallies.

Meanwhile, Trump speaking lewdly in private is an automatic disqualification from the presidency and is a BIG DEAL for some reason. Only far-right crazies care about voter fraud and corruption but talking like a frat boy is just too much.

Incidentally, Trump will still lose because Hillary could literally eat a baby on live television and her hack fraud supporters (including the ones on CNN that claim to be unbiased) would say "Hillary Clinton eating a baby is something only far right kooks care about" and carry on with the story about the pie eating contest.
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2016, 02:46:10 PM »

There isn't any circular logic: O'Keefe is a convicted criminal that has been successfully sued many times in relation to the videos he cuts and the unethical and libelous edits he makes to them. So, thus, we have no reason to believe the validity of these videos and every reason to believe he is using similar strategies. It is not reasonable people's fault that you cannot understand logic and common sense.

Okay, so he makes misleading cuts. Please explain to me how his recent videos could have been cut to make these completely innocent Democratic operatives look guilty.

Meanwhile, Trump speaking lewdly in private is an automatic disqualification from the presidency and is a BIG DEAL for some reason. Only far-right crazies care about voter fraud and corruption but talking like a frat boy is just too much.

Here, let me quote you some of that "frat boy" talk:

- “I did try and f--- her. She was married,”

- “I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married,”

- "I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”

- “Grab them by the p---y...You can do anything.”

These things describe sexual assault not "frat boy" talk. Nobody with a decent head on their shoulders would ever say these things.



I'm not sure whether you're lying outright or whether you live in some sort of alternate universe. I can imagine you walking into a college dorm and telling the freshmen "EXCUSE ME THAT IS SEXUAL ASSAULT HOW COULD YOU USE THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE"

Apparently talking like an immature college student is worse than "We came, we saw, he died!" followed by a sinister cackle at the thought of Gaddafi's corpse being mutilated and dragged through the streets.
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2016, 05:32:14 PM »

There isn't any circular logic: O'Keefe is a convicted criminal that has been successfully sued many times in relation to the videos he cuts and the unethical and libelous edits he makes to them. So, thus, we have no reason to believe the validity of these videos and every reason to believe he is using similar strategies. It is not reasonable people's fault that you cannot understand logic and common sense.

Okay, so he makes misleading cuts. Please explain to me how his recent videos could have been cut to make these completely innocent Democratic operatives look guilty.

Meanwhile, Trump speaking lewdly in private is an automatic disqualification from the presidency and is a BIG DEAL for some reason. Only far-right crazies care about voter fraud and corruption but talking like a frat boy is just too much.

Here, let me quote you some of that "frat boy" talk:

- “I did try and f--- her. She was married,”

- “I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married,”

- "I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”

- “Grab them by the p---y...You can do anything.”

These things describe sexual assault not "frat boy" talk. Nobody with a decent head on their shoulders would ever say these things.



I'm not sure whether you're lying outright or whether you live in some sort of alternate universe. I can imagine you walking into a college dorm and telling the freshmen "EXCUSE ME THAT IS SEXUAL ASSAULT HOW COULD YOU USE THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE"

Apparently talking like an immature college student is worse than "We came, we saw, he died!" followed by a sinister cackle at the thought of Gaddafi's corpse being mutilated and dragged through the streets.

There's a difference, he didn't say he WANTED to do it, he said he DID IT. I know that's hard to understand but it would be if I said "hey dude, I want to f*** your girlfriend vs "hey dude, I just f***ed your girlfriend".

People telling sex stories tend to leave out "unnecessary" details, context, etc. They also tend to embellish if they think they can get away with it, which is more or less what Trump was doing The gist of what he was saying was "I'm so rich/famous/charismatic that I could come onto a married woman and she'd welcome it", not "I'm so rich/famous/charismatic that I could rape a woman and get away with it"


Trump wasn't in college, he was fifty nine years old.

Sure, and what he said was pretty pathetic to come from a grown ass man rather than a college undergrad, but that it is considered to be the big scandal of his campaign is just ridiculous, especially while blowing off anything from Wikileaks or O'Keefe as "a non issue" or "irrelevant".

Hell, even with neither of those in the mix, there are plenty of things Hillary has done that are thousands of times worse than anything Trump has ever done or even been accused of doing. Say what you will of Trump, he hasn't destabilized any foreign countries or advocated for sanctions that led to hundreds of thousands of deaths. In modern America, crude, sophomoric speech is considered to be worse than mass murder.
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