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« on: October 21, 2016, 10:43:40 PM »

Kasich or Rubio could potentially do quite well with the Latino vote in 2020.
The problem is that they do not represent the republican base.

  Hispanics are extremly assimilated.
I agree with this to a large extent, however Hispanic culture is inherently in favor of larger government. Stick your head in the sand all you want, despite all the rhetoric about Hispanics being "natural conservatives" this is still not compatible with Anglo conservatism, and I will admit the republican base is justified in their concern over what the demographic deluge will mean for the future of american politics, however they are the ones to blame for shooting themselves in the foot thinking this could be reversed.

Personally I never got all the fuss about Hispanics causing problems for Republicans in the long run, prior to Trump formally branding the GOP as anti-Hispanic/immigrant. Immigrants come here and start at the bottom, so of course they support Democrats, but gradually they will assimilate into middle class suburbia as their status grows and thus have the same interest as the GOP's middle class suburban base. There's no reason it had to be any different than the situation with Irish/Italian immigrants, until the Republicans decided to alienate them for the foreseeable future.

This isn't accurate.

People tend to vote same party for life.

Some of it is inter-generational. Irish/Italian/Polish American Catholics don't really vote more D than other white people anymore, so there's clearly precedent.

Your forgetting that these group assimilated when black people moved to North in droves. This allowed Irish, Polish, and Italian to become just white. Racial discrimination was not directed at them anymore.

They were still Catholic, though. By the "demographic destiny" argument (curiously proposed by both the craziest of far-right Republicans and by a lot of Democrats), the Republicans should have been destroyed as a political force by the rise of Catholic immigrants long ago, yet they did just fine in the end.

Incidentally, if the Republicans fall apart in a big way, then the Democrats won't last much longer. The tensions between socialists and liberals, environmentalists and union members, working class white voters and immigrants, etc are only held at bay because of the threat of the Republicans. If the Republicans are crippled as a political force, some of those groups will either switch over to the Republicans (or whoever replaces them) or just create their own parties. There is no world in which Hillary-style Democrats hold onto power indefinitely.
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