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Smash255
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« on: May 28, 2005, 04:43:15 PM »

I'll take the zero percent chance risk it passes in exchange for Democrat losses.

Rangel is an idiot for coming up with this, but it could actually wind up hurting the GOP more.  He could win up with a co-sponsor, and if this ever does come up for a vote, more Republicans will probably vote for it than Dems
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2005, 04:47:19 PM »

Amazing how instead of adressing my point Phillip has to pull off posts I made about a year ago on this board ( most of which coincided with the polling data at the time)
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2005, 05:01:13 PM »

You didn't have a point. You had a wish.

So if this comes up for a vote you don't think more Republicans would vote for it then Dems??


By the way as far as predictions go we both sucked.  Looking at the old prediction maps we both had 44 states right in our final map (D.C included) & 7 states wrong.
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2005, 05:03:23 PM »


With the recruiting goals being missed month after month the situation is a bit more desperate than it was during the last vote.  Anyway no where near enough will vote on this bill to pass it, but their probably will be a few Republicans that will vote for it, as opposed to basically just Rangel on the Dems side
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2005, 05:10:15 PM »

Zero Republicans voted for it last time. Two Democrats did.

I fully admit that my prediction sucked, but I admitted the entire time it was partisan. I was just making a map of the best possible scenario for Bush.

& my prediction and the posts of mine you are grasping at are from times where the polls that were out wern't that far off from my predictions.  Anyway my post before, I don't think anyone will really be hurt by this.  You hoped for this to hurt the Dems in the 06 elections, but Rangel's seat is safe no matter what he does & their will be hardly any votes for it.  In nature the GOP tends to be more in favor of the draft than the Dems are.  The constant shortage of recruiting goals that we are going through now was as much of a problem the last time this was voted on as it is now.  So it is entirely possible that more people could vote for it this time around than last time (although it will still fall well short of the votes needed)
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2005, 11:19:20 PM »

The Republican approval rating is higher than Democrat approval rating. There are plenty of potential pickups for the Republicans in the Senate; House is too gerrymandered to move much. The approval rating for Congress is down because people are pissed about gas prices.

People are not going to think a Democrat bill represents Bush and Republicans.

Latest Pew Research Poll (from 5/12- 5/15) had the Dems approval 39%, disapproval 41%,  Republicans approval 35%, disapproval 50%
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2005, 11:56:55 PM »


Not really.  The terrible idea is the aggression the US has been committing

No, I like that idea. The problem with a draft is that draftees inevitably have lower morale than volunteers. Perhaps higher financial rewards would heighten enrollment.

The Armed Forces needs patriots not profiteers.  Bribing someone is not the answer.  I believe the military should expand the service academies or create new models.  It has the potential of creating an all chiefs and no indians service but it should be explored. 

Bribing someone may not be the answer, but they should be paid more than what they are & have more benefits as far as health & whatnot when they come home
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