would hillary win any bush states?

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People will see a guy on the ballot who promises to continue the war in Iraq indefinitely, and they'll vote for the main candidate running against him.

I disagree. Hillary is not anti-war...neither is Giuliani. If the War on Terror in Iraq is the main issue next year, and we have two candidates that want to change or end the war but are not staunch anti-war...then the voters move to likeability, which Rudy has much more of than Hillary.

Hillary wants to set a date for ending the war. Giuliani wants to continue it indefinitely. Huge difference. I also have no doubt you'd say unambigously anti-war Obama and Edwards would lose Ohio.

Yes, they would both lose Ohio. For obvious reasons, of course.

Such as? And the "too liberal" argument won't work in a state that elected Sherrod Brown.

It was either Brown or DeWine, and DeWine got a lot of criticism for his campaign tactics, leading to unpopularity, so the people elected Brown, and I'm glad they did. I just don't consider the analogy applicable, though.

If Brown narrowly won then I might say the analogy isn't applicable, but its not like this race was close.  Brown knocked off an incumbent Senator by double digits that is a pretty big deal.

regarding Ohio, hillary wins, Obama wins, Edwards win, doesn't really matter who they face the chance of Ohio going Republican is slim.