Westman Timeline Pt. I

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You made Crane a Libertarian hero, not a Conservative one! (although he is Pro-Life) I'm not angry or anything, but it seems that that's what you did.

Also, glad it's back.

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What became of the careers of the Goldwaters, Spiro T Agnew, Jim Rhodes, Richard Nixon, and Robert Finch?

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I don't want to bug you, but while you're active, could you answer this question please?

What became of the careers of the Goldwaters, Spiro T Agnew, Jim Rhodes, Richard Nixon, and Robert Finch?

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Funny to see Nixon write books about himself. Now that I think about it, what happened to the Buckley Bros. and who's in Crane's cabinet? You said there'd be a Rockefeller and maybe a Buckley in it. Thanks.

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I like that among the Democrats in the cabinet, Paul Tsongas is included. I also, of coruse, like that both Buckleys are in the cabinet.

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Go Crane! It'd be sweet to have him be the first un-affiliated President elected since Washington.

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We all know why Fred Harris won Iowa.

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We all know why Fred Harris won Iowa.

I see somebody has read up on the (way overdue for updates) classics .

**Ahem**

Anyway, yeah. Before I joined the forum I was reading timelines since at least early 2010. I remember waiting in vain for Dallasfan65 to update "The Second Term of Gerald Ford". In the period where I wasn't on the forum, I also read your Goldwater timeline and your End of Freedom timeline. At that point I think you were calling yourself "Metal Mario" or something. **sigh** Brings back memories.

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Thing is, Ben Nighthorse Campbell didn't get into politics until 1986. Who's he in this timeline?

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Why is Westman saying "What the F**ck!" when he won and acting somewhat angry about it in the first few sentences?

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Glad to see a sane D'Israeli running for Senate. Imagine the Senate with not just one, but two D'Israelis! (unless of course D'Israeli isn't in the Senate because he forwent re-election in order to run for President or something) I have a like for political dynasties.

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When reading I must have accidentally skipped over the whole Mechaman-Kalwejt conflict.

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I just gotta say, I love the incredibly political changes that have taken place in America. Not just with the list of Presidents, but with all the demographic changes within parties, and all the different parties that came to a head in 1980. I love it!

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How's my man Mattingly doing with the eighties economy?

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Cool. I find seeing an alternate version of my character really intresting.

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I like compiling things, and this is as good an excuse as any to bump this thing, so here goes:
Presidents, Vice-Presidents, Losing Tickets, and Electoral Maps 1948-1988

Presidents and Vice-Presidents
34. Thomas Dewey (Republican-New York), January 20th, 1949-January 20th, 1953
     35. Earl Warren (Repubilcan-California) January 20th, 1949-January 20th, 1953
35. Estes  Kefauver (Democrat-Tennessee) January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1961
     36. James Roosevelt (Democrat-California) January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1961
36. Charles Percy (Republican-Illinois) January 20th, 1961-February 18th, 1963
     37. Thurston B Morton (Republican-Kentucky) January 20th, 1961-February 18th, 1963
37. Thurston B Morton (Republican-Kentucky) February 18th, 1963-January 20th, 1969
     38. Hiram Fong (Republican-Hawaii) January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1969
38. Robert F Kennedy (Democrat-New York) January 20th, 1969-May 8th, 1973
     39. George HW Bush (Republican-Connecticut) January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1973
     40. Ronald W Reagan (Democrat-California) January 20th, 1973-May 8th, 1973
39. Ronald W Reagan (Democrat-California) May 8th, 1973-January 20th, 1981
     41. James E Carter (Democrat-Georgia) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981
40. Phillip M Crane (Constitution/Independent/Conservative-Illinois) January 20th, 1981-?
     42. Senator Jesse Helms (Constitution-North Carolina) January 20th, 1981-October 1st, 1982
     43. Ray Hutchinson (Republican/Conservative-Texas) October 21st, 1982-?

Losing Tickets
1948: President Harry S Truman (D-MO)/Senator Alben W Barkely (D-KY), Governor J Strom Thurmond (SR-SC)/Senator Richard Russell Jr. (SR-GA), Former Vice-President Henry Wallace (P-IA)/Senator Glen Taylor (P-ID)
1952: President Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Vice-President Earl Warren (R-CA)
1956: Former Governor Harold Stassn (R-MN)/Congressman Hugh Scott (R-PA), Former Governor Herman Talmadge (SR-GA)/Congressman Thomas Werdel (SR-CA)
1960: Vice-President James Roosevelt (D-CA)/Senator John F Kennedy (D-MA), Senator Harry F Byrd (SR-VA)/Governor Orval Faubus (SR-AR)
1964: Senator Mike Monroney (D-OK)/Former Governor John Burroughs (D-NM)
1968: Governor George Romney (R-MI)/Senator Frank Church (D-ID), Governor George Wallace (SR-AL)/Actor John Wayne (SR-CA)
1972: Governor Spiro T Agnew (R-MD)/Former Governor James Rhodes (R-OH), Former Governor Lester Maddox (SR-GA)/Congressman John Jarman (SR-OK)
1976: Former Ambassador to the United Nations Elliot Richardson (R-MA)/Senator Dole (R-KA), Congressman Thomas J Anderson (C-TN)/Congressman John G Schmitz (C-CA)
1980: Senator Beauregard D'Israeli (R-WY)/Congressman Jack Kemp (R-NY), Senator Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Former Senator Fred Harris (D-OK), Senator Jacob Javits (MR-NY)/Senator Robert Stafford (MR-VT), Attorney Edward Clark (L-CA)/Senator Scott Westman (L-MT)
1984: Former Senator Fred Harris (D-OK)/Senator Daniel Lynch (D-MA), Congressman Michael Harrison (R-CA)/Senator Harry Callahan (R-WA)

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Electoral Maps

1948

Thomas E. Dewey (New York)/Earl Warren (California) Republican Party 305 electoral votes 48.12% popular vote
Harry S. Truman (Missouri)/Alben W. Barkley (Kentucky) Democratic Party 176 electoral votes 44.02% popular vote
Strom Thurmond (South Carolina)/Richard Russell Jr. (Georgia) State’s Rights Democratic 50 electoral votes 4.38% popular vote
Henry A. Wallace (Iowa)/Glen Taylor (Idaho) Progressive Party 3.08% popular vote
Other 0.4% popular vote

1952

Estes Kefauver (Kentucky)/James Roosevelt (California) Democratic Party 268 electoral votes 49.24% popular vote
Thomas Dewey (New York)/Earl Warren (California) Republican Party 263 Electoral Votes 49.44% popular vote
Other: 1.34% Popular vote

1956

President Estes Kefauver (Tennessee)/Vice President James Roosevelt (California) Democratic Party 366 Electoral Votes 52.11% popular vote
Former Governor Harold Stassen (Minnesota)/Representative Hugh Scott (Pennsylvania) Republican Party 120 Electoral Votes 43.81% popular vote
Former Governor Herman Talmadge (Georgia)/Representative Thomas Werdel (California) States Rights Party 45 Electoral Votes 3.61% popular vote

1960

US Senator Charles H. Percy (Illinois)/US Senator Thurston B. Morton (Kentucky) 270 Electoral votes 48.52% Popular Vote
US Vice President James Roosevelt (California)/US Senator John F. Kennedy (Massachusetts) 240 Electoral Votes 48.39% Popular Vote
US Senator Harry Byrd (Virginia)/Governor Orval Faubus (Arkansas) State’s Rights Party 27 Electoral Votes 2.65% Popular Vote
Other: .44% Popular Vote

1964
1964 US Presidential Election:

US President Thurston B. Morton (Kentucky)/US Senator Hiram Fong (Hawaii) Republican Party 390 Electoral Votes 55.72% Popular Vote
US Senator Mike Monroney (Oklahoma)/Former Governor John Burroughs (New Mexico) 148 Electoral Votes 42.88% Popular Vote
Other: 1.4% Popular Vote

1968
     -General Election
     

Robert F. Kennedy (New York)/Frank Church (Idaho) 247 Electoral Votes 42.88% Popular Vote
George Romney (Michigan)/George HW Bush (Connecticut) 238 Electoral Votes 43.22% Popular Vote
George C. Wallace (Alabama)/John Wayne 53 Electoral Votes 13.58% Popular Vote(California)
Other: .32% Popular Vote

     -House Election
     

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1972

President Robert F. Kennedy (New York)/Senator Ronald W. Reagan (California) Democratic Party 425 Electoral Votes 54.10% Popular Vote
Governor Spiro Agnew (Maryland)/Former Governor James Rhodes (Ohio) Republican Party 43 Electoral Votes 29.21% Popular Vote
Former Governor Lester Maddox (Georgia)/John Jarman (Oklahoma) Constitution Party 70 Electoral Votes 15.82% Popular Vote
Other: .87% Popular Vote 1 Electoral Vote*

*An elector in Colorado would cast a vote for the infant Libertarian Party, giving an electoral vote to John Hospers of California and Theodora Nathan of Oregon.  This would make Nathan the first female to receive an electoral vote.

1976

President Ronald Reagan (California)/Vice President James Carter (Georgia) Democratic Party 282 Electoral Votes 44.61% Popular Vote
Elliot Richardson (Massachusetts)/Robert Dole (Kansas) 233 Electoral Votes 44.20% Popular Vote
Representative Thomas Jefferson Anderson (Tennessee)/Representative John G. Schmitz (California) 23 Electoral Votes 9.11% Popular Vote
Other: 2.08% Popular Vote

1980
     -Map One
      

Representative Phil Crane (Illinois)/Senator Jesse Helms (North Carolina) Constitution Party 249 Electoral Votes 30.12% Popular Vote
Senator Beauregard D'Israeli (Wyoming)/Representative Jack Kemp (New York) Republican Party 220 Electoral Votes 31.08% Popular Vote
Senator Walter Mondale (Minnesota)/Former Senator Fred Harris (Oklahoma) Democratic Party 36 Electoral Votes 21.04% Popular Vote
Senator Jacob Javits (New York)/Senator Robert Stafford (Vermont) Moderate Reform Party 33 Electoral Votes 11.56% Popular Vote
Attorney Edward Clark (California)/Senator Scott Westman (Montana) Classic Liberal Party 5.74% Popular Vote
Others=0.46% Popular Vote

     -Map Two
      

Representative Phil Crane (Illinois)/Senator Jesse Helms (North Carolina) 253 Electoral Votes 34.03% Popular Vote
Senator Beauregard D'Israeli (Wyoming)/Representative Jack Kemp (New York) 242 Electoral Votes 33.99% Popular Vote
Senator Walter Mondale (Minnesota)/Former Senator Fred Harris (Oklahoma) 40 Electoral Votes  29.81% Popular Vote
Senator Jacob Javits (New York)/Senator Robert Stafford (Vermont) 3 Electoral Votes 2.17% Popular Vote

     -Map Three
      

Representative Phil Crane (Illinois)/Senator Jesse Helms (South Carolina) 313 Electoral Votes 51.82% Popular Vote
Senator Beauregard D'Israeli (Wyoming)/Representative Jack Kemp (New York) 225 Electoral Votes 47.22% Popular Vote
Other: 0.96% Popular Vote.

1984

President Philip Crane (Conservative-Illinois)/Vice President Ray Hutchison (Conservative-Texas) 48.41% Popular Vote 450 Electoral Votes
Former US Senator Fred Harris (Democratic-Oklahoma)/US Senator Daniel Lynch 32.41% Popular Vote 61 Electoral Votes
US Representative Michael Harrison (Republican-California)/US Senator Harry Callahan (Republican-Washington) 16.03% Popular Vote 27 Electoral Votes
Other: 3.15%

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Whatever happened to former Vice-President Bush? Maybe a run for Governor or Senator or a diplomatic appointment?

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You see me now a veteran...of a thousand Persian Wars...

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"Bryan Adams Jennings", sounds like a copy off William Jennings Bryan. And David Hyman Roth? A copy off the Godfather character?

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Hell yeah, it's back and with a Conservative America ticket!

One typo though, you refer to Westman as the Democratic nominee for President, not Governor.

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By the way, I'm wondering how the election will come out. Assuming you have the Classic Liberals, the Moderate Reformers, and the Constitution Parties all running, what color would be used for the Conservatives?

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I didn't know you were going to take your hero all the way! I assumed Ebert or Smith were going to win the nomination and Harris would do reasonably well but fade out of the spotlight. I guess I guessed wrong. Hoping to see who the other parties put up, if they put up anybody at all. Damn, it's going to be a wild election map.

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I have a feeling that "beaver" represents something else, but even if I think I'm getting it, I don't see anything to "die laughing" about.