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« Reply #175 on: January 07, 2011, 09:16:36 PM »
« edited: January 07, 2011, 09:19:00 PM by Papistcon »

July 11th, 1972
Question: Would you agree to be Congressman Schmitz's Running Mate?

No, I'd never consider joining a ticket with such a blatant racist as Mr. Schmitz. Despite our agreement on war and on Civil Liberties, I can not and will not be on the same ticket with a man such as him.
-Senator Robert Taft Jr. (R-OH)

Such a man as John Schmitz, despite some of his positions being dead on in terms of Civil Liberties, should not be on any Presidential ticket no matter how small. His racism as well as his foolish positions on foreign policy as well as his extremely limited experience in Congress, disqualify him for that position. For now I am content with the Republican Party and hope they nomination my good friend and colleague, Senator Reagan.
-Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)

Congressman Schmitz is a man with guts, and with the stomach to stand up to the Liberalism in both parties. However, my time for running is done. The Dixiecrat Party at this time is considering endorsing him.
-Senator Strom Thurmond (D-SC)

Yes I would consider being on a ticket with Congressman Schmitz, who is a man of integrity alone in a party made up of Northern Liberals and Western fools. Right now, I'm concentrating on winning the Democratic nomination, however.
Governor George Wallace (D-AL)
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« Reply #176 on: January 08, 2011, 09:53:45 AM »

As a note, there is only won registered Dixiecrat in Congress, that is Harry F Byrd. The rest, such as Thurmond, all chnage their registration when they see a Dixiecrat candidates running. However, during the rest of the year, they are Democrats.

Any ideas on who Schmitz should choose as his Vice-President? I'm not sure myself right now. I'm thinking that if a moderate wins the nomination, a Conservative could step on, but right now all the major ones are turned off by Schmitz's racism.
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« Reply #177 on: January 08, 2011, 11:42:11 AM »
« Edited: January 08, 2011, 11:54:29 AM by Papistcon »

July 13th, 1972
Sanford and Humphrey Successful!
Following the balloting for Vice-President, it can be said decisively that Vice-President Terry Sanford is the Democratic Presidential nominee, and Hubert H Humphrey is the Republican Vice-Presidential nominee. Both of these were expected. The major ramifications are being felt with a 5% swing of support to the Schmitz campaign. Along with that, Republicans picked up 2%. It is as of yet unknown who Congressman Schmitz will choose for Vice-President. Some names that are floating around include Senator James L Buckley (C-NY) and Governor George Wallace (D-AL). However, Senator Buckley says that he has not yet been called by the Schmitz campaign.

Who do you prefer for President? (7-9-72)
Ronald Reaagn-48%
Terry Sanford-40%
John Schmitz-3%
Undecided/Other-9%
Who do you prefer for President? (7-13-72
Generic Republican-50%
Terry Sanford/Hubert H Humphrey-40%
John Schmitz/?-8%
Undecided/Other-2%
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« Reply #178 on: January 08, 2011, 11:49:14 AM »

July 14th, 1972

Because of the continued Liberal trend of the Democratic party, as well as its being out of touch with most Americans, I endorse Congressman Schmitz for President!
Governor George Wallace (D-AL)

I too will follow along th eline of Governor Wallace in supporting Congressman Schmitz!
-Senator Strom Thurmond (D-SC)

No, I have not been called by the Schmitz for President campaign and if I were, I would not accept to be on the same ticket with a man such as John Schmitz.
-Senator James L Buckley (C-NY)

I don't see Schmitz as much of a threat. We have won twice before without the Deep South, and it is a clear sign the the Deep South does not need the Democratic Party and the Democratic Party does not need the Deep South.
-Senate Minority Leader and Vice-Presidential candidate Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN)

I can not condone the racist rhetoric of Congressman Schmitz, or his foolish positions on foreign wars. We won Vietnam and he still hasn't taken the message that America can and will win other wars. Right now, I'm concentrated on locking up the delegates I need for the Republican National Convention.
-Senator and Presidential candidate Ronald Reagan (R-CA)
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« Reply #179 on: January 08, 2011, 10:45:22 PM »

Coming up: The Triumph of President Moonbeam!
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« Reply #180 on: January 09, 2011, 02:56:17 PM »

July 22nd, 1972
Apollo 15 Launches! Expected To Be The One!
At 10:00 AM, Eastern Standard Time, in Houston Texas, Apollo 15 launched, bound on its mission toward the Moon. Present at the launch site were President Kennedy, Vice-President Sanford, Secretary of Defense John Connally, Senators George Bush and Lyndon Johnson, Governor John Tower, and NASA Director John Glenn. Astronauts David Scott, James Irwin, and Alfred Wordon are expected to reach the Moon on the 26th, and expected to return home by the 30th. President Kennedy has claimed that along with the passing of pieces of the Great Society, the Civil Rights Act of 1969, and victory in the Vietnam War, this is one of his proudest moments as President.

The Robbins Medallino for Apollo 15

The effect that this has on the Presidential Race currently ensuing has not yet been researched, though polls are expected to be published by the late evening. The President's approval ratings have shot up to 72%.
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« Reply #181 on: January 09, 2011, 02:56:45 PM »

Anyone care to criticize my blatant historical innacuracy?
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« Reply #182 on: January 09, 2011, 03:12:28 PM »

July 22nd, 1972
Apollo 15 Reaches Moon!
At a time currently unavailable, Apollo 15 is reported to have landed. Pictures were taken out of the live feed sent back to NASA, however they are hazy and not of high quality. More pictures, and of better quality, are expected to arrive with the astronauts when they return home at the end of this month. Astronaut James Wordon is the first man to ever set foot on the face of the moon. All three; David Scott, james Irwin, and Alfred Wordon, are expected to be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Kennedy.
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« Reply #183 on: January 09, 2011, 03:15:15 PM »

Any complaints about my lack of historical accuracy at this point?
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« Reply #184 on: January 09, 2011, 04:34:02 PM »

July 30th, 1972
Astronauts Return Home! Apollo 15 A Success!
At 6:03 Eastern Standard Time, the three astronauts of Apollo 15; David Scott, James Irwin, and Alfred Woodon, landed in Los Angeles after having been flown in from the Pacific Ocean via helicopter after their landing in the Pacific Ocean. It is expected that they will all receive Presidential Medals of Freedom. Pictures brought back are below.



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« Reply #185 on: January 09, 2011, 04:48:36 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2011, 06:58:48 PM by Cathcon »

August 4th, 1972

Look, you're doomed at the convention. You, Nixon, and Hatfield will all go down in flames. I'm the only one with a chance.

Your run was unforgivable. You helped doom my chances in Ohio. you and Hatfield both betrayed me.

If I hadn't run, we all know who would have the nomination by now! We've been over this. Reagan would've swept every one of those primaries except for maybe Ohio and one other state. That's it! I saved our wing of the party!

Hmmmm...

Look, I'll pick a fellow moderate Southerner, and people like Scranton and Ford will get cabinet positions. We've got to stop Reagan and his radical domestic policies.

I'll call you.

August 5th, 1972
Rockefeller Drops Out! Pledges All Delegates to Agnew!
Yesterday, after having talked with his advisers, New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller announced that he would be dropping out of his candidacy for the Republican nomination. He has announced that his endorsement if Maryland Governor Sprio T Agnew, a friend of his, and someone he called a 'Real Reformer'. Currently, the waves are being felt as Agnew is close to toppling Reagan's delegate lead. No word has come from the Nixon, Reagan, or Hatfield campaigns.
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« Reply #186 on: January 09, 2011, 05:08:39 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2011, 06:59:04 PM by Cathcon »

August 6th, 1972

By now, of course, you've heard about what that bastard Rockefeller did?

Of course, Dick.

What are you going to do about it?

I'll fight as best I can to beat Agnew.

That's it? You're going to need more than that!

Have you seen Kennedy's approvals? If a candidate as lack-luster as Agnew wins the nomination, Sanford will take that election! In 1976, I'll be the natural candidate.

Don't be so sure of that...
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« Reply #187 on: January 09, 2011, 05:19:49 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2011, 06:59:25 PM by Cathcon »

August 9th, 1972
Nixon Endorses Agnew!
After an drawn out primary season and the lead-up to the convention, the momentum that Senator Reagan had going in seems to have been reversed as Maryland Governor Sprio T Agnew has picked up another major endorsement. Former President Nixon, who attempted a come back by running for the nomination a third time, ahs decide to drop out and endorse Governor Agnew, claiming that the Governor is 'a viable alternative to the radicalism of Senator Reagan'. It seems now that Reagan will have to stage one large conventino fight to successfuly take the nomination.
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« Reply #188 on: January 09, 2011, 06:20:55 PM »

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« Reply #189 on: January 09, 2011, 06:38:14 PM »
« Edited: January 14, 2011, 02:28:24 PM by Cathcon »

With the Moon Landing, I felt vindicated. I had accomplished many things as President, most of which were in my second term. I created the Environmental Protection Agency, I passed the Civil Rights Act of 1969, I won in Vietnam, I passed pieces of the Great Society, and I put Man on the Moon. However, that entire time, there was a continuing split between the Liberals, the Moderates, and the Conservatives, though it had died down considerably after the primary season. I hoped it woudl stay that way all the way through, and that Schmitz's campaign would hurt the Republicans the most.
-A Second Chance-The Story of 1964 and the years following, John F Kennedy (c) 1974



I had actually been one of the first people asked to be Sanford's Vice-President. There had been speculation as I had been one of the most active members of the administration. However, I was concentrated on winning Edward Brooke's Senate seat. Later, I realized that that tooke me farther more than I knew.
-In My Defense, Robert F Kennedy, (c) 1984



With Sanford's nomination, a symbol of the man, Kennedy, who we had grown to despise because of his actions in Vietnam, we knew we had to do something. Sanford might have been 'Liberal', however at heart he was just like Kennedy. The first step was to call EPA Director Ralph Nader.
-The Death of the Democrats, Mike Gravel, (c) 1996



When I saw the headline "Nixon Endorses Agnew", I was ready to burst. I was thinking 'Have we been campaigning since 1971, have we won a plurality of the primaries, have we worked so hard, for this!?'. I called Edwin Meese. We knew we'd have to work overtime that night, and several other nights leading up to the convention that month. Meanwhile, if Meese and I were able to push Reagan through, we still didn't know how the South was going to go, and who that bastard Schmitz was going to choose for Vice-President.
-Right From the Beginning, Patrick J Buchanan, (c) 1987



When George got the call from Agnew, I think he was taken completely by surprise. He said he'd have to think about it, and from what I heard from his family, he was locked in his study all night. At that point, we didn't even know if Agnew woudl be nominated or not. George called Agnew early the next morning and said that he woudl accept if Agnew were to win the nomination. However, he wanted no prior announcement about it. That call was the slow entering into the abyss we call the Presidency. Once again, we had no idea where we woudl go.
-What the Man was Made of, James Baker, (c) 1999
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« Reply #190 on: January 09, 2011, 07:12:50 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2011, 07:30:11 PM by Cathcon »

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« Reply #191 on: January 09, 2011, 07:22:13 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2011, 07:24:22 PM by Cathcon »

August 29th, 1972
Schmitz Announces VP Choice!
With the nomination of moderate-to-Conservative Governor Sprio T Agnew of Maryland on the Republican ticket as oppsed to Conservative Senator Ronald Reagan of California, Congressman John Schmitz has announced that his Independent ticket will have Conservative Republican Congressman John Ashbrook on it. Though he lacks name recognition, and is certainly weaker than possible picks such as George Wallace, he will attract Conservatives to the ticket.

Congressman John Ashbrook of Ohio - John Schmitz's choice for Vice-President


Who do you prefer for President?
Vice-President Terry Sanford/Senator Hubert H Humphrey (D)-49%
Governor Spiro T Agnew/Senator George Bush (R)-43%
Congressman John Schmitz/Congressman John Ashbrook (I)-5%
Undecided/Other-2%
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« Reply #192 on: January 09, 2011, 07:25:34 PM »

Any thoughts on the election? Sanford/Humphrey vs. Agnew/Bush vs. Schmitz/Ashbrook and a fourth option may enter.
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« Reply #193 on: January 09, 2011, 07:39:11 PM »

September 1st, 1972
A Fourth Ticket?
Earlier today, in an interview with former presidential contender Senator Mike Gravel of Alaska, when asked about possibly running for President as an Independent, the Senator reportedly said, off the record:

'Now, I don't know about me, but one of my friends might.'

It is unknown whether this is true or not, however if it is, speculation shifts to such Liberals as Senator Euguene McCarthy of Minnesota, Senator George McGovern of South Dakota, and Senator Frank Church of Idaho, all of which were Gravel supporters during the primaries. One must also wonder about EPA Director Ralph Nader who himself alluded to a 3rd Party bid.
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« Reply #194 on: January 09, 2011, 07:48:08 PM »

Coming Up: The Munich Massacre
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« Reply #195 on: January 09, 2011, 07:51:43 PM »

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« Reply #196 on: January 10, 2011, 02:58:18 PM »

Interesting VP nominee... will he die before the election? xD

Which one? Ashbrook, Bush, or Hubert H Humphrey?
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« Reply #197 on: January 10, 2011, 07:26:43 PM »

Interesting VP nominee... will he die before the election? xD

Which one? Ashbrook, Bush, or Hubert H Humphrey?

ashbrook hahaha,... I think he died while running for senate, am I right?

I don't know, but I do know he died in 1982, ten years later. And in real life, he ran for the Republican nomination in 1972, so I don't think he'd die.
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« Reply #198 on: January 10, 2011, 10:01:43 PM »

Any other opinions?
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« Reply #199 on: January 11, 2011, 03:12:43 PM »

Interesting VP nominee... will he die before the election? xD

Which one? Ashbrook, Bush, or Hubert H Humphrey?

ashbrook hahaha,... I think he died while running for senate, am I right?

You're right Julio. Ashbrook was campaigning for the Republican nomination to decide their candidate for the 1982 senate election in Ohio, and died suddenly aged only 53. Polls had him in the lead and stood a serious chance against Metzenbaum.

Any opinion of the recent developments?
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