I think it's time we had another talk about the krazen situation

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Making a harmless second account = instant perma-ban
Behaving like krazen = oh well, nothing we can do, sorry guys

What a joke.

And we all know that if krazen's vitriol was directed at gays instead of poors he would have been banned long ago, like the jtfcms.

Gay hating is bigotry. Social Darwinism is not.

I really don't see how both aren't bigotry, to be honest. How is Social Darwinism not a form of bigotry? While it is obviously in principle a lot easier to stop being poor than it is to stop being gay, I'm not sure that it makes a huge difference in practical terms for most people, and hatred for gays and hatred for poors very often appeal to the same sorts of personalities (and then of course in bygone days these sorts of personalities would have had a much freer hand in polite company to express similar contempt for racial minorities and women; it's often seemed to me like certain of the tropes of homophobia are in some way or another repurposed or reconstructed from certain of the tropes of misogyny, as a lot of the tropes of (krazen-style) classism are from those of racism). I also don't think jmfcst hated gays with nearly the terrifying levels of unhinged vitriol that krazen hates poors, although I may have missed something.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

If krazen held the political views that he does but didn't make a habit of referring to poor people as 'moochers' and 'leeches' and symbolically defenestrating them from his concept of the body politic in every other post he makes, I'd have no problem with him. RogueBeaver, to name just one example, probably has similar views to krazen when you get down to actual policy positions and RogueBeaver is an excellent poster who I wouldn't describe as bigoted at all.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I'll just leave this exchange here.

I didn't know that Abraham Lincoln himself quorum-busted in his time! I wonder if krazen believes that Lincoln 'loathe[d] the democratic process'. Of course, Lincoln was a very great man and was, of course, the greatest American President, so krazen's answer has, of course, obvious implications for whether or not he is a Real American.

Are you not aware of Lincoln's unilateral suspension of Habeas Corpus and ex Parte Merryman? Of course he hated the democratic process. Not unlike Barry.

Obviously not everybody who holds this view of Lincoln is a disgusting, racist, crypto-Francoist slime mold, but coming from somebody with krazen's track record it's a little concerning.