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Redalgo
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« on: November 22, 2012, 01:54:33 PM »

Out of curiosity, which posters "support" Hamas?
Everybody that voted Iran in the Iran V Israel thread?

So because I would support Iran if Israel were to begin bombarding it I somehow also support Hamas, you say? How does that work? As of this moment I don't think Iran has initiated a war against Israel, but if it were to I'd obviously support Israel instead.

I like Israel. I like its people. But they're not above criticism. I refuse to unconditionally defend any country - even my own - and I sure as hell do not support terrorist organizations. xD
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2012, 01:24:22 PM »

. . . The thread should have given us an "out" option of voting "neither".  You're probably right that a few people went with Iran out of the assumption that Israel would be the one attacking first despite the fact that Iran attacks Isreal all the damn time but their aggression is ignored.  It doesn't fit their world view (and certainly won't be seen by them unless pointed out by people like me).

And by "their aggression is ignored" I assume what you really mean to say is, "their aggression is ignored by some, while going unnoticed by others since at least some of them do not carefully scrutinize Iranian-Israeli relations," instead? With all due respect, I resent the implication that I am prejudiced against Israel or in favor of Iran or Hamas when, in fact, I am interested in who is wronging who and at what orders of magnitude - imperfectly developing opinions and foreign policy prescriptions based on what limited information I've been exposed to in the past. The original thread may not have given any context, incidentally, but if memory serves me well was posted at a time when there was a lot of speculation going around that Israel was preparing to execute a preemptive strike to neutralize Iran's nuclear facilities.
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2012, 02:26:52 PM »
« Edited: November 24, 2012, 02:28:53 PM by Redalgo »

I've started a number of threads discussing Iran's aggression towards Israel, oddly they rarely if if ever make it past the first page.  People want to talk about Iranian aggression about as much as they want to talk about rockets from Gaza when the Israelis aren't firing back.  Which is not at all.  I suppose you could have missed them since they dropped off the first page so fast.

That seems most likely in my case.

To be fair though, I tend to steer clear of threads that are explicitly about something or other President Ahmadinejad says in front of the press because I never know which of his remarks are sincere and which are just for political gain or keeping up appearances. Otherwise, if you still have any links to some of the threads in question, I'd be glad to mull over their contents and see if I've anything to contribute to those discussions. It's always interesting to learn some new things about a far-off corner of the world.

That's about every 3 months for the past 10 years isn't it?  Israel is ALWAYS about to attack Iran.

Aye, and Iran is always putting into motion plans to rain nuclear warheads down on Israel. I'm jaded from the staggering volume of accusations I hear swirling around the issue elsewhere on the web and do not always have the time or will to dig deep and figure out which of them are bullsh**t and which seem pretty plausible. The speculation is often off-mark if not ridiculous, but that doesn't stop said speculation from framing discussions until that is later widely recognized!
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