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ThePrezMex
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« on: June 08, 2004, 02:50:40 PM »

2004-2008 John Kerry/Evan Bayh (D)
2008-2012 Evan Bayh/Alex Penelas (D) over Bill Owens/Chuck Hagel (R)
2012-2016 Bayh/Penelas over Hagel/Powell
2016-2020 Bobby Jindal/George P. Bush (R) over Penelas/Harold Ford (D)
2020-2024 Jindal/Bush again (R)
2024-2028 First Hispanic Pres (D)
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ThePrezMex
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2004, 03:19:37 PM »

2004-2008 John Kerry/Evan Bayh (D)
2008-2012 Evan Bayh/Alex Penelas (D) over Bill Owens/Chuck Hagel (R)
2012-2016 Bayh/Penelas over Hagel/Powell
2016-2020 Bobby Jindal/George P. Bush (R) over Penelas/Harold Ford (D)
2020-2024 Jindal/Bush again (R)
2024-2028 First Hispanic Pres (D)

Why won't Kerry run for re-election?

It was more interesting this way. Because of bad health after non stop fight against AlQaeda and sort.
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ThePrezMex
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E: 5.25, S: -1.69

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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2004, 06:40:22 PM »

2005-2009: Kerry/Edwards
2009-2013: Mccain/Jeb Bush
2013-2021: Edwards/Richardson
2021- The end ot time: ?
Do you think that McCain would challenge Kerry? and choose as running mate a member of the Bush family? I don't think that would happen.
In 2009 McCain will be 73yo! (also Elizabeth Dole), so you all need to take age into consideration for your predictions.
Correction on my predictions: I was thinking about election years when I wrote that..so of course the actual periods should read: 2005-2009 not 2004-2008 as I posted.. sorry about that.
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ThePrezMex
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2004, 08:56:33 AM »

2004-2008 Kerry
2008-2016 McCain
2016-2020 Edwards
2024-2028 Frist

anything after that is just impossible to hope to predict accurately.
Why you all try to extend the life of current politicians for 20 more years? Frist would be 72 in 2024! Exactly the same age McCain will be in 2008! Why don't you look for younger politicians for predictions for the next four elections?
That's why the prediction I posted yesterday is:

2005-2009 John Kerry/Evan Bayh (D)
2009-2013 Evan Bayh/Alex Penelas (D) over Bill Owens/Chuck Hagel (R)
2013-2017 Bayh/Penelas over Hagel/Powell
2017-2021 Bobby Jindal/George P. Bush (R) over Penelas/Harold Ford (D)
2021-2025 Jindal/Bush again (R)
2025-2029 First Hispanic Pres (D)
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ThePrezMex
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E: 5.25, S: -1.69

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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2004, 02:29:47 PM »

It typically takes someone about 20-30 years after their political career starts to get to the White House.  So ... for 2024, look at the people who are just getting started now.

2016 and 2020 belongs to the current junior Congressmen and the first term Governors.

2012 goes to the guys who are senior but not prominent right now.

And 2008 ... here's my short list of possible candidates ....

Democrat - John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Bill Richardson, Al Gore

Republican - Jeb Bush, George W Bush (if he loses in 2004), John McCain (although I doubt he could win the nomination), Colin Powell, Lamar Alexander
That is what I've been saying all along.
I really doubt that Jeb Bush would become a Presidential Candidate. If W is reelected, then people would be tired of the Bush name for a while and would never elect Jeb. On the other hand, if W is defeated, then again, it means that the people don't want to know anything about them for the time being. But, we cannot "misunderestimate" the Bush clan, that's why I'm putting in my predictions George P. Bush (Jeb's son and with a Mexican mother) to be VP to Bobby Jindal (LA) in 2016.
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ThePrezMex
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2004, 03:57:59 PM »

It is
2004-Bush
2008-Edwards
2012-McCain

Why you didn't put yourself there for 2024 or 2028?
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ThePrezMex
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E: 5.25, S: -1.69

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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2004, 10:03:33 AM »


So we have an official contest now.. the GOP nomination in 2024 or 2028 will be between Josh22 on NC and Richard M. Nixon from NJ.. cool.
Although, I'm sorry I won't be working with any of you.. my period as President of Mexico will end in 2024.
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ThePrezMex
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Posts: 730
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E: 5.25, S: -1.69

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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2004, 11:59:37 AM »

If the GOP's rise in power continues, it wouldn't surprise me if at some point in the future the Democrats dessolve and form a new party.

I think this will happen if they can't defeat Dumbya this year.
Well, I totally agree that a new party should be formed by the likes of:
Joe Lieberman, Joe Biden, Evan Bayh, Bill Richardson, Mary Landrieu, Wes Clark, Jennifer Granholm etc - D
and
John McCain, Richard Lugar, Lincoln Chafee, Arlen Specter, Colin Powell etc - R
But.. that would be subject for another thread.

I want to further discuss the 2028 GOP Election among Josh22 and Richard M. Nixon
For those who already know them well.. with which current politicians would you compare each of them?
By the way, I never introduced myself properly to this forum:
My real name is Cesar, I'm from Mexico (will be President of Mexico) and I'm studying right now at the LBJ School at UT-Austin.
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ThePrezMex
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Posts: 730
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Political Matrix
E: 5.25, S: -1.69

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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2004, 02:06:06 PM »

If the GOP's rise in power continues, it wouldn't surprise me if at some point in the future the Democrats dessolve and form a new party.

I think this will happen if they can't defeat Dumbya this year.
Well, I totally agree that a new party should be formed by the likes of:
Joe Lieberman, Joe Biden, Evan Bayh, Bill Richardson, Mary Landrieu, Wes Clark, Jennifer Granholm etc - D
and
John McCain, Richard Lugar, Lincoln Chafee, Arlen Specter, Colin Powell etc - R
But.. that would be subject for another thread.

I want to further discuss the 2028 GOP Election among Josh22 and Richard M. Nixon
For those who already know them well.. with which current politicians would you compare each of them?
By the way, I never introduced myself properly to this forum:
My real name is Cesar, I'm from Mexico (will be President of Mexico) and I'm studying right now at the LBJ School at UT-Austin.


Hey I am Josh22, I am a Mod. Republican.  I would say I am like Alan Keys but anyway, I am closes to him...

You are a part of the Religious Right.

Well, since we haven't heard from the other candidate then Josh22 will be the GOP nominee in 2028 and he apparently will lose in a landslide against the Democratic candidate. Who is he(she)? Is any young, aspiring seeker of the Democratic nomination around here?
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ThePrezMex
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Posts: 730
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Political Matrix
E: 5.25, S: -1.69

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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2004, 08:42:15 PM »

Wow. How old are you exactly?

Here is my prediction, along party lines first:

2004: DEM
2008: DEM
2012: DEM
2016: DEM
2020: GOP
2024: DEM
2028: GOP
2032: GOP
2036: GOP
2040: DEM

That's as far out as I'm willing to go, anything after that is really a lot of BS. The line I have is just guessing based on the pendulum theory, applied to party dominance. But we don't follow that directly, and I'm guessing there's going to be some major shakeups in AMerican Politics in the next 40 years. So, add in candidates, and see what changes:

2004: Kerry/Richardson vs. Bush/Guiliani = KERRY
2008: Kerry/Richardson vs. McCain/Powell = MCCAIN
---------Powell dies (natural causes)
2012: McCain/Paul vs.  H. Clinton/Edwards = MCCAIN
2016: Edwards/Obama vs. Frist/Coleman = EDWARDS
2020: Edwards/Obama vs. Coleman/Allen = EDWARDS
2024: Obama/Herseth vs Coleman/Pawlenty = COLEMAN
2024:Coleman/Pawlenty vs Newsom/Jackson =COLEMAN
---That's Jesse Jackson Jr., and Sen Norm Coleman/Gov. Tim Pawlenty, both of MN.
2028: Newsom/Jackson vs. HuhHuh = ???GOP?Huh
2032: Obama/Richardson vs. Huh?? =  OBAMA
2036: Obama/Richardson vs.  Huh?? = OBAMA
2040: Richardson/Jackson vs. ???GOP??? = RICHARDSON


lol. This is really a lot of bull, but I think a Kerry vs. McCain race would do far more to heal this country than a Kerr/McCain ticket would.

Cool, good exercise.. at least not gerontocratic politicians. Who is that Richardson in 2040?
You can make a competition between Obama and Jindal
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