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jfern
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« on: May 09, 2010, 10:43:21 PM »

Another fail from Obama. Maybe when the Republicans gain 6 Senate seats, he'll appoint Robert Bork.
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jfern
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2010, 10:51:13 PM »

I'm [not] glad Obama didn't pick Wood. [Sad]

Obama had nothing to lose by going with a liberal. The conservative base is most energized anyway, and nominating Wood would have excited the liberal base. The SC already had a rightward lean, and the nominee replaces one of the more (or most) liberal justice. Also, the Senate is as Democratic as it will be for some time.

Liberals are not Obama's base. Goldman Sachs is.
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jfern
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2010, 11:00:39 PM »

Another fail from Obama. Maybe when the Republicans gain 6 Senate seats, he'll appoint Robert Bork.

Please. It's bad that he picks judges based on qualities other than ideology? Get real.

And Wood was a potential pick based on ideology and not qualifications? Please. Kagan is a moderate hero pick for the sake of a moderate hero pick and I fail to see how that's any better than what you're (incorrectly) complaining about.

I was pointing out jfern's stupidity in expecting Obama to pick a liberal. Besides, it makes sense he'd pick Kagan, we need more justices who weren't career judges prior to their appointment.

And didn't he personally know Kagan or something? Expecting another Stevens is stupid and not how our judicial nomination process should work.

What's unreasonable about expecting someone sort of liberal when there are only 41 Republican Senators and to replace the most liberal member of the court. I really would hate to see who Obama has in mind for some later replacements. Obama needs to give the liberals a reason to show up in November. He hasn't.
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jfern
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2010, 11:02:22 PM »

Another fail from Obama. Maybe when the Republicans gain 6 Senate seats, he'll appoint Robert Bork.

Please. It's bad that he picks judges based on qualities other than ideology? Get real.

And Wood was a potential pick based on ideology and not qualifications? Please. Kagan is a moderate hero pick for the sake of a moderate hero pick and I fail to see how that's any better than what you're (incorrectly) complaining about.

Kagan is the one with few qualifications, actually.

I guess Obama wanted his own Harriet Miers.
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jfern
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E: -7.38, S: -8.36

« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2010, 11:23:32 PM »

Another fail from Obama. Maybe when the Republicans gain 6 Senate seats, he'll appoint Robert Bork.

Please. It's bad that he picks judges based on qualities other than ideology? Get real.

And Wood was a potential pick based on ideology and not qualifications? Please. Kagan is a moderate hero pick for the sake of a moderate hero pick and I fail to see how that's any better than what you're (incorrectly) complaining about.

I was pointing out jfern's stupidity in expecting Obama to pick a liberal. Besides, it makes sense he'd pick Kagan, we need more justices who weren't career judges prior to their appointment.

And didn't he personally know Kagan or something? Expecting another Stevens is stupid and not how our judicial nomination process should work.

What's unreasonable about expecting someone sort of liberal when there are only 41 Republican Senators and to replace the most liberal member of the court. I really would hate to see who Obama has in mind for some later replacements. Obama needs to give the liberals a reason to show up in November. He hasn't.

You're acting like Kagan isn't closer to where Obama actually is, which I'm pretty sure is the case.  Why should Obama pander rather than select a Justice that's roughly the same disposition he is?

Well, the same was said about W. and Harriet Miers but the conservative base understandably wanted some more tangible evidence.

Sadly, I think that liberals are far less used to getting what they want than the far right, and won't bother to have much of an opposition, and Obama will get his crappy choice confirmed.
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jfern
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2010, 11:31:20 PM »

Wow - just read through a couple of appellate briefs that she's put forth as Solicitor General.

They suck.

Please enlighten us.  That's a legitimate criticism, unlike jfern's Roll Eyes.

Well, I should have been specific on my reasons. Her support for the unitary executive theory is troubling. Also, she seems too much like Harriet Miers. Obama shouldn't move the court this far to the right when a Republican retires.
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jfern
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2010, 01:58:31 AM »

Wait... Obama nominated a conservative to replace a liberal in the Sureme court ?!? Shocked

WHAT... THE... F-CK ?

It was already clear that Obama is a useless moderate hero. What a waste. We could have had someone center-left elected in 2008, but we wasted it on this Goldman Sacs fan-boy.
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