John Boehner is a child and he's taking his ball home

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Cuz Obama took some of the marbles away after the Dems in Congress b slapped his emissary.  So Obama was pulled Left, and Boehner need to get the hell out before he was consumed by fire.

The Pubbies should just do the 500 billion cut (that Obama has already agreed to) and short term extension, and dare the Dems/Obama to kill/veto it. They should say the philosophical divide is just too great to do anything else, and that we need another election to make further progress. Everybody is changing their position every 5 minutes based on the latest pressure point to yank their chain. It's a circus. Shut it down. Obama will swallow. He will have no choice.

So what do the Republican want on taxes? Trying a 100% cuts budget is absolutely ridiculous. Is it just a disagreement on how the taxes are to be raised?

$800 billion in tax increases was already offered, it seems. Senate Democrats hollered and then obama asked for $1.2 trillion in tax increases.

If the tax increases are from reducing COLA, they're pretty regressive.

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This is just another example of True Obama: everything is political. The country, allegedly, faces this dire threat losings its credit rating on one hand, and longtime insolvency on the other. Instead of acting to find a solution for the good of the country, he is embarked on a purely political course of attempting to force Congressional Republicans to play the role of GWHB reneging on his "No new taxes!" pledge.

The audacity of Obama becomes clear with his insistence that he would veto any small, short-term debt ceiling increase. Obama claims that he doesn't want to back in the same place eight months from now. Well, is this about the good of the country, or Obama? If it takes eight months to hash this out then Obama ought to be willing to spend that time for the good of the country.

His claiming that he would deliberately send this nation into default just to dictate the length of time until the debt ceiling needs to be raised again is his attempt to seize the role of a petulant child in the debate. By acting like a spoiled brat, Obama is hoping to force with the grownups in Washington to adjust his threat of throwing a temper tantrum.

I would assume that he would sign any debt ceiling increase that was a clean bill, regardless of size.

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This is just another example of True Obama: everything is political. The country, allegedly, faces this dire threat losings its credit rating on one hand, and longtime insolvency on the other. Instead of acting to find a solution for the good of the country, he is embarked on a purely political course of attempting to force Congressional Republicans to play the role of GWHB reneging on his "No new taxes!" pledge.

The audacity of Obama becomes clear with his insistence that he would veto any small, short-term debt ceiling increase. Obama claims that he doesn't want to back in the same place eight months from now. Well, is this about the of the country, or Obama? If it takes eight months to hash this out then Obama ought to be willing to spend that time for the good of the country.

His claiming that he would deliberately send this nation into default just to dictate the length of time until the debt ceiling needs to be raised again is his attempt to seize the role of a petulant child in the debate. By acting like a spoiled brat, Obama is hoping to force with the grownups in Washington to adjust his threat of throwing a temper tantrum.

I would assume that he would sign any debt ceiling increase that was a clean bill, regardless of size.

Yes, Obama said he would veto any "short-term" bill, ie, he said he would veto any bill that only added hundreds of billions, rather than trillions, to the debt ceiling.

Obama is an idiot if he would actually veto a $999 billion increase that was a clean bill. I don't think he's quite that dumb.

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I'm glad there's no deal. Obama's proposal is terrible. The revenue increases are less than letting the Bush tax cuts expire. How come no one cared about the debt when Obama capitulated on the Bush tax cuts just 7 months ago? That compromise was a budget buster, neither Congressional Republicans nor Obama can claim any notion of giving a rat's ass about the national debt.

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No, that is not how the system works. It only works that way if you think Dems want to raise the debt ceiling and Republicans don't. That is how many Republicans feel right now. But what we are going to see is either a panic in the Republican caucus or, a few days later, a panic on wall street that forces them to bend, because your Pubbies have drawn a line in the sand against any deal. If you want more evidence to test your theory, here is a lagniappe: consider the influence of the 30th most liberal Dem in the house in 2007.

Again, this is highly irresponsible rhetoric. Wall Street is populated with people on the sunnyside of the Bell Curve. They are fully aware that no default is imminent. Falsely raising the specter of "default" only jeopardizes the credit rating of this county.

The reality is that if a debt ceiling increase was packaged with clean spending cuts agreeable to the House, Senate, and President, our credit outlook would be improved over merely just raising the debt ceiling.

As I said before, Obama is merely deliberately playing brinksmanship in order to raise taxes with the political benefit of having the Republicans in Congress play the role of GWHB breaking a solemn vow to the American people.

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