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« on: August 18, 2014, 09:31:53 PM »

Fake Democrat Reed endorsed Republican Swearengin for Controller.
No wonder he supports a fellow fake Democrat who is a pawn of the tech CEOs.
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2014, 02:11:29 AM »

I don't understand the hate of the tech sector, I really don't. Can someone please explain it to me or is it basically money=bad?

Tech CEOs are very anti-worker.
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2014, 02:33:45 AM »

None of this is particularly meaningful, in any case. Honda won by a large margin in the primary and he will win by a large margin in the general election. This election isn't directly analogous to the election in Hawaii, but the comparison is useful to make, because like Hawaii this district is majority-Asian and consequently strongly pro-incumbent. For Khanna to win, voters need a good reason to vote Honda out, and they have nothing of the sort.

One of Khanna's strategies here has been to court the Indian vote, which is substantial but significantly smaller than the Chinese vote. In a matter reminiscent of politics in the home country, his campaign mailers trumpet his grandfather's participation in the Quit India movement. There's no actual way of reliably measuring the Indian vote since Indians do not live in their own separate areas, but if I may draw from anecdotal evidence Khanna has largely failed in this regard. Indians are just as pro-incumbent as their Chinese neighbors.

Well, Khanna is certainly trying to play the race card for all its worth. "Don't let Ro Khanna outsource our jobs" is supposedly racist.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2014, 03:05:43 AM »

None of this is particularly meaningful, in any case. Honda won by a large margin in the primary and he will win by a large margin in the general election. This election isn't directly analogous to the election in Hawaii, but the comparison is useful to make, because like Hawaii this district is majority-Asian and consequently strongly pro-incumbent. For Khanna to win, voters need a good reason to vote Honda out, and they have nothing of the sort.

One of Khanna's strategies here has been to court the Indian vote, which is substantial but significantly smaller than the Chinese vote. In a matter reminiscent of politics in the home country, his campaign mailers trumpet his grandfather's participation in the Quit India movement. There's no actual way of reliably measuring the Indian vote since Indians do not live in their own separate areas, but if I may draw from anecdotal evidence Khanna has largely failed in this regard. Indians are just as pro-incumbent as their Chinese neighbors.

Well, Khanna is certainly trying to play the race card for all its worth. "Don't let Ro Khanna outsource our jobs" is supposedly racist.

That is actually racist.

Umm, what? Was it racist to call Carly Fiornia an outsourcer, too?
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2014, 03:11:32 AM »

There actually aren't that many Asians and there are basically zero blacks or Hispanics.

What's your source for this? I'm at a major tech company right now and there are more than two dozen people on my side of the floor. I'm literally the only one who was born in the United States.

Obviously there are a lot of Asians in tech, but it's a very bad sign if only 1 out of more than 2 dozen employees is American born. A good company should have a healthy mix of American and foreign born. And not all foreign born tech workers are Asians.
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2014, 10:01:21 PM »

None of this is particularly meaningful, in any case. Honda won by a large margin in the primary and he will win by a large margin in the general election. This election isn't directly analogous to the election in Hawaii, but the comparison is useful to make, because like Hawaii this district is majority-Asian and consequently strongly pro-incumbent. For Khanna to win, voters need a good reason to vote Honda out, and they have nothing of the sort.

One of Khanna's strategies here has been to court the Indian vote, which is substantial but significantly smaller than the Chinese vote. In a matter reminiscent of politics in the home country, his campaign mailers trumpet his grandfather's participation in the Quit India movement. There's no actual way of reliably measuring the Indian vote since Indians do not live in their own separate areas, but if I may draw from anecdotal evidence Khanna has largely failed in this regard. Indians are just as pro-incumbent as their Chinese neighbors.

Well, Khanna is certainly trying to play the race card for all its worth. "Don't let Ro Khanna outsource our jobs" is supposedly racist.

That is actually racist.

Umm, what? Was it racist to call Carly Fiornia an outsourcer, too?

It depends on the context on which you call him an outsourcer. Has he personally outsourced any jobs of are you calling him that because he is an Indian guy who is friends with tech CEO's? In any case, he makes the case for how to make America more competitive and how to keep jobs here without resorting to protectionism, so those those comments would be stupid at best.

He wants to double the number of H-1Bs. There are a lot of companies that look only to hire H-1Bs, and usually of a certain race. But of course they can't be racist.
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2014, 10:31:17 PM »

None of this is particularly meaningful, in any case. Honda won by a large margin in the primary and he will win by a large margin in the general election. This election isn't directly analogous to the election in Hawaii, but the comparison is useful to make, because like Hawaii this district is majority-Asian and consequently strongly pro-incumbent. For Khanna to win, voters need a good reason to vote Honda out, and they have nothing of the sort.

One of Khanna's strategies here has been to court the Indian vote, which is substantial but significantly smaller than the Chinese vote. In a matter reminiscent of politics in the home country, his campaign mailers trumpet his grandfather's participation in the Quit India movement. There's no actual way of reliably measuring the Indian vote since Indians do not live in their own separate areas, but if I may draw from anecdotal evidence Khanna has largely failed in this regard. Indians are just as pro-incumbent as their Chinese neighbors.

Well, Khanna is certainly trying to play the race card for all its worth. "Don't let Ro Khanna outsource our jobs" is supposedly racist.

That is actually racist.

Umm, what? Was it racist to call Carly Fiornia an outsourcer, too?

It depends on the context on which you call him an outsourcer. Has he personally outsourced any jobs of are you calling him that because he is an Indian guy who is friends with tech CEO's? In any case, he makes the case for how to make America more competitive and how to keep jobs here without resorting to protectionism, so those those comments would be stupid at best.

He wants to double the number of H-1Bs. There are a lot of companies that look only to hire H-1Bs, and usually of a certain race. But of course they can't be racist.

Yeah, so? And I'm not sure about the "certain race" part. You don't have to be so coy about your feelings Jfern. Let out the hate brotha!

I guess you think Dick Durbin is racist now?
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/us-senator-accuses-tcs-infosys-wipro-of-abusing-h1b-visas/387221-2.html
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jfern
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2014, 11:12:42 PM »

None of this is particularly meaningful, in any case. Honda won by a large margin in the primary and he will win by a large margin in the general election. This election isn't directly analogous to the election in Hawaii, but the comparison is useful to make, because like Hawaii this district is majority-Asian and consequently strongly pro-incumbent. For Khanna to win, voters need a good reason to vote Honda out, and they have nothing of the sort.

One of Khanna's strategies here has been to court the Indian vote, which is substantial but significantly smaller than the Chinese vote. In a matter reminiscent of politics in the home country, his campaign mailers trumpet his grandfather's participation in the Quit India movement. There's no actual way of reliably measuring the Indian vote since Indians do not live in their own separate areas, but if I may draw from anecdotal evidence Khanna has largely failed in this regard. Indians are just as pro-incumbent as their Chinese neighbors.

Well, Khanna is certainly trying to play the race card for all its worth. "Don't let Ro Khanna outsource our jobs" is supposedly racist.

That is actually racist.

Umm, what? Was it racist to call Carly Fiornia an outsourcer, too?

It depends on the context on which you call him an outsourcer. Has he personally outsourced any jobs of are you calling him that because he is an Indian guy who is friends with tech CEO's? In any case, he makes the case for how to make America more competitive and how to keep jobs here without resorting to protectionism, so those those comments would be stupid at best.

He wants to double the number of H-1Bs. There are a lot of companies that look only to hire H-1Bs, and usually of a certain race. But of course they can't be racist.

Yeah, so? And I'm not sure about the "certain race" part. You don't have to be so coy about your feelings Jfern. Let out the hate brotha!

I guess you think Dick Durbin is racist now?
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/us-senator-accuses-tcs-infosys-wipro-of-abusing-h1b-visas/387221-2.html

Immigrant tech workers themselves will admit there are abuses in the system. Most of those workers want a green card in the long run but if their employers just want them to learn some skills and then ship them back to the country of their origin, then that needs to be stopped. Forcing them to process more green cards would be the obvious solution, but then you need to increase the number of green cards allowed per year. Durbin's law is idiotic because all it does is shift the abuse from Indian companies to American companies. Ensuring these visas aren't just used as a tool for outsourcing, whether it be Indian or American companies should be the goal.

At the end of the day though, if you are against all h1b visa holders, then you are against any immigration from countries like India or the Phillipines. If some republican came out against any immigration from Mexico or El Salvador, guess what you or your esteemed left wing colleagues would call him?

LOL, there's a difference between being against all H-1B visa holders, and wanting to double the number of H-1Bs.

However, even if the H-1B visa was completely eliminated, all of the best and brightest could be hired under the O-1 visa.
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2014, 03:50:25 AM »

None of this is particularly meaningful, in any case. Honda won by a large margin in the primary and he will win by a large margin in the general election. This election isn't directly analogous to the election in Hawaii, but the comparison is useful to make, because like Hawaii this district is majority-Asian and consequently strongly pro-incumbent. For Khanna to win, voters need a good reason to vote Honda out, and they have nothing of the sort.

One of Khanna's strategies here has been to court the Indian vote, which is substantial but significantly smaller than the Chinese vote. In a matter reminiscent of politics in the home country, his campaign mailers trumpet his grandfather's participation in the Quit India movement. There's no actual way of reliably measuring the Indian vote since Indians do not live in their own separate areas, but if I may draw from anecdotal evidence Khanna has largely failed in this regard. Indians are just as pro-incumbent as their Chinese neighbors.

Well, Khanna is certainly trying to play the race card for all its worth. "Don't let Ro Khanna outsource our jobs" is supposedly racist.

That is actually racist.

Umm, what? Was it racist to call Carly Fiornia an outsourcer, too?

It depends on the context on which you call him an outsourcer. Has he personally outsourced any jobs of are you calling him that because he is an Indian guy who is friends with tech CEO's? In any case, he makes the case for how to make America more competitive and how to keep jobs here without resorting to protectionism, so those those comments would be stupid at best.

He wants to double the number of H-1Bs. There are a lot of companies that look only to hire H-1Bs, and usually of a certain race. But of course they can't be racist.

Yeah, so? And I'm not sure about the "certain race" part. You don't have to be so coy about your feelings Jfern. Let out the hate brotha!

I guess you think Dick Durbin is racist now?
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/us-senator-accuses-tcs-infosys-wipro-of-abusing-h1b-visas/387221-2.html

Immigrant tech workers themselves will admit there are abuses in the system. Most of those workers want a green card in the long run but if their employers just want them to learn some skills and then ship them back to the country of their origin, then that needs to be stopped. Forcing them to process more green cards would be the obvious solution, but then you need to increase the number of green cards allowed per year. Durbin's law is idiotic because all it does is shift the abuse from Indian companies to American companies. Ensuring these visas aren't just used as a tool for outsourcing, whether it be Indian or American companies should be the goal.

At the end of the day though, if you are against all h1b visa holders, then you are against any immigration from countries like India or the Phillipines. If some republican came out against any immigration from Mexico or El Salvador, guess what you or your esteemed left wing colleagues would call him?

LOL, there's a difference between being against all H-1B visa holders, and wanting to double the number of H-1Bs.

However, even if the H-1B visa was completely eliminated, all of the best and brightest could be hired under the O-1 visa.

Do you have any evidence he wants to increase h1b visas for those abusing the system, rather than making it easier for smaller companies to hire more immigrants?

Of course he wants to increase it for the H-1B abusers.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2014, 01:53:54 AM »

The real Democrat won. KOFY figured out Khanna's correct party, LOL.

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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2014, 04:18:49 PM »

The margin at the end of the day was 51% for Honda 48% for the Republican.

Alot closer than it should have been.

Those should add up to 100%.
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