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« on: December 09, 2014, 02:46:41 AM »

I'd imagine the California Democratic party will endorse a candidate and try to force the other Democrats out to try to get exactly 1 candidate in top 2. That's better than taking a risk of 0 or 2 with top 2. But either way, getting rid of top 2 would be much better.
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2015, 11:57:46 PM »


I hope Swalwell runs because he will get absolutely crushed. A good way to get rid of him in congress too. That bigot (against atheists/agnostics) doesn't deserve to be in congress.

Exactly.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2015, 01:30:20 AM »

If Feinstein goes for another, she's a lifer.

Strom Thurmond made it to 100 without dying in office, though.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2015, 02:49:03 PM »


That sounds about right. Our June elections heavily favor Republicans.


Loretta Sanchez is seriously considering, from her facebook page

I don't think Harris has this locked down quite yet. Sanchez would be more formidable as a Hispanic opposition than Villarigosa.

Hell no to a blue dog!
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2015, 02:46:33 AM »

Harris keeps on racking in endorsements from the Northeast, with endorsements from Gillibrand and Booker. She also received a pretty big endorsement from CA Speaker Toni Atkins who became the first openly gay governor of the state for a day last year, and was on the CA-Sen potential list.

That doesn't count.

Acting governor. I remember that it went all the way down to 3rd in line due to out of state trips.
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2015, 02:17:52 AM »

Need another woman to replace Feinstein when she retires.

Nobody else really stands out, except for maybe Loretta Sanchez. She's moderate relative to the delegation but could pull a Gillibrand and slide left if she were to get it.

Gillibrand wasn't in a D+9.
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2015, 03:44:41 PM »

Need another woman to replace Feinstein when she retires.

Nobody else really stands out, except for maybe Loretta Sanchez. She's moderate relative to the delegation but could pull a Gillibrand and slide left if she were to get it.

Gillibrand wasn't in a D+9.

Sanchez doesn't actually vote like a blue dog though.

Well, she feels some sort of loyalty to the much hated group. And her voting record is way more conservative than her sister.
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2015, 02:16:01 AM »
« Edited: January 31, 2015, 02:18:01 AM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Need another woman to replace Feinstein when she retires.

Nobody else really stands out, except for maybe Loretta Sanchez. She's moderate relative to the delegation but could pull a Gillibrand and slide left if she were to get it.

Gillibrand wasn't in a D+9.

Sanchez doesn't actually vote like a blue dog though.

Absolutely. She votes as a pragmatic moderate liberal. There is even such notion as "California's Blue Dog"... Among Democratic congressmen from California only Costa is more or less REAL Blue Dog, and even he is much less conservative then Blue Dogs of recent past. In fact even Peterson (MN-07), who is frequently called "the most conservative House Democrrat" this year is no more then slightly right-of-center populist. Democratic caucus is so liberal now, that it's only slightly less liberal then Republican - conservative...

You make it sound like 35 conservadems didn't just vote to gut Dodd-Frank.

Anyways, membership in the Blue Dog organization is a 100% disqualifier for being US Senator from California.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2015, 02:35:46 AM »

Need another woman to replace Feinstein when she retires.

Nobody else really stands out, except for maybe Loretta Sanchez. She's moderate relative to the delegation but could pull a Gillibrand and slide left if she were to get it.

Gillibrand wasn't in a D+9.

Sanchez doesn't actually vote like a blue dog though.

Absolutely. She votes as a pragmatic moderate liberal. There is even such notion as "California's Blue Dog"... Among Democratic congressmen from California only Costa is more or less REAL Blue Dog, and even he is much less conservative then Blue Dogs of recent past. In fact even Peterson (MN-07), who is frequently called "the most conservative House Democrrat" this year is no more then slightly right-of-center populist. Democratic caucus is so liberal now, that it's only slightly less liberal then Republican - conservative...

You make it sound like 35 conservadems didn't just vote to gut Dodd-Frank.

Anyways, membership in the Blue Dog organization is a 100% disqualifier for being US Senator from California.

There are no conservadems in House any more. Not even a single one. And i am not absolutely sure that even Barrow, McIntyre and Matheson would absolutely qualify as such. All, who are called this name by ultraliberals, are no less then centrists. 30-40 years ago they would be even considered "somewhat liberal"... Party became MUCH more liberal since that days. And that's the reason it will be in minority most of the time in foreseable future. Not in California of course, but in the country...

Huh? There are a number of "Democrats" who vote more often with the Republicans than the Democrats on crucial votes. Just check ProgressivePunch.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2015, 04:31:35 PM »

This is a sort of a roundabout way to poll, but instead of running head-to-heads, the Field Poll asked respondents who they'd be 'inclined' to support. Condi (49/39) and Harris (46/37) were the highest overall.

With Democrats, 74% are 'inclined' to support Harris, with Villaraigosa at 57%.

The stupid hurts bad. DiFi is enough of a warmonger. We don't need the world's biggest lying warmonger, Rice.
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2015, 07:36:08 PM »

Hell no to Blue Dogs from D+8 districts.
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2015, 10:19:00 PM »


"California Blue Dogs" are no Blue Dogs in all, but name.

No, she was pretty conservative (not a Parker Griffith, but still). However, that was when here district was a lot more competitive than it is today. She's flip-flopped on several issues and looks like a generic Dem now.

Agree. But even Parker Griffith wasn't (IMHO) the most conservative even among contemporary Blue Dogs. And absolutely incomparable with Blue Dogs of relatively recent past (Boll Weevils), who included such persons as Larry McDonald, Phil Gramm and Bob Stump (all - Democrats!).

Larry McDonald was listed 2nd to only Ron Paul as the most right-wing member of Congress during a 75 year period, so of course he's more conservative than every other Democrat.
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2015, 10:15:15 PM »

Hell no to the Blue Dog!!!!!!!! It's bad enough that we have 1 terrible Senator, it had better not become 2.
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2015, 01:51:13 AM »

Hell no to the Blue Dog!!!!!!!! It's bad enough that we have 1 terrible Senator, it had better not become 2.
LOL. Feinstein is not a conservadem.

A blue dog and a Feinstein are crappy Senators wherever they are, but are especially bad if they represent California.
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2015, 04:43:22 PM »


She does seem to be running for an office. Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2015, 12:04:36 AM »

I love Loretta, having met her a few times. But she really needs to step aside this Senate campaign.

Why does she *need* to step aside?  Kamala can't even take a position on an issue. She's having handlers do her talking. Frankly, she frightens me, and I'll be willing to cast a tactical vote for Sanchez if it stops her.  I remember when she was S.F. DA, refusing to seek the death penalty for a COP KILLER. This should DISQUALIFY HER.

Come on, Prop. 34 to repeal the death penalty got 70% in San Francisco and 48% statewide. It's not that unpopular a viewpoint.
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2015, 12:14:41 AM »

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I get what you're saying, and I'm aware of that. But, over 100K San Franciscans (myself included) voted to retain the death penalty. That ought to mean something.  Many people who are generally anti-DP support the DP in extreme circumstances, such as for terrorists like Tsarnaev and cop killers.

I get your point about her representing SF. but criminal cases are brought upon by the STATE OF CALIFORNIA. It's not "City of San Francisco vs Defendant" It's "State of CA vs Defendant" and her not seeking the DP on behalf of the STATE, was really offensive. Many liberals here were very upset about it. I believe she had the worst statewide performance here of any Democrat candidate in a *very long* time (save Phil Angelides).

Bustamante also lost in 2006. While her 2010 election was close, Harris did much better in 2014, and did better than some other Democrats, including Newsom.
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2015, 12:35:40 AM »

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Those states have an initiative process (I think). if they want to raise the minimum wage and make the cost of a burger up to $6.00, like it is in San Francsico, be my guest. No skin off my nose.


I'm opposed to minimum wage increases because I've seen what it's done to San Francisco. Mom and pop shops are closing.

Borderlands Bookstore is still open.
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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2015, 11:01:44 PM »

Sanchez voted against the Iraq War and the Patriot Act, which aren't exactly things that someone very conservative would do, so I wouldn't imagine that many Republicans would be anxious to back her.

Why the heck is she a Blue Dog then? She still has a much more conservative voting record than her sister.
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2016, 04:38:03 AM »

I'd be a little more excited about this race if Harris and Sanchez hadn't both endorsed Hillary.
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